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Old 12-18-2017, 11:02 PM
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This team needs blue chip players. If they get #3 and trade back, they better only trade back a few spots at most. Trading back into the lower part of the 1st round makes it harder to build a team with real talent. We need those difference makers. We have other picks and plenty of cap space to fill in other positions otherwise.
Agree. I think they’ll listen to all offers but stay put and take Chubb.
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Getting a real offensive scheme will do more to protect Luck than a guard
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If that’s the case, is there any position besides pass rush that you’d approve of?

(With the understanding that there isn’t a guy that’s top 10 talent at ILB, if you’d even consider that position, not sure if that’s also on your No Fly List or not).
Not that you asked me but if he's available I only approve of using our first pick on Chubb.......not because we desperately need a blue chip pass rusher (although we do) but think of all the dick jokes we can torment Omaha with..............What do you get when you cross a chub with a hooker?????
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Old 12-19-2017, 01:16 AM
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Watch Chubb vs. FSU to get an idea of what he can do to a backfield.
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Not that you asked me but if he's available I only approve of using our first pick on Chubb.......not because we desperately need a blue chip pass rusher (although we do) but think of all the dick jokes we can torment Omaha with..............What do you get when you cross a chub with a hooker?????
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If that’s the case, is there any position besides pass rush that you’d approve of?

(With the understanding that there isn’t a guy that’s top 10 talent at ILB, if you’d even consider that position, not sure if that’s also on your No Fly List or not).
OT if there is one. CB would be ok I guess.

Ilber would have to be one hell of a player to go top 10. I would do it.

In general a top 10 should be qb, o tackle or pass rusher, and wr and cb. Rarely would I pick any other position.
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I'm hoping for a healthy Andrew Luck and the Colts drafting a blue chip pass rusher. Nothing can make a CB look better than a hurried QB.
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I'm hoping for a healthy Andrew Luck and the Colts drafting a blue chip pass rusher. Nothing can make a CB look better than a hurried QB.
I would be fine with the drafting of a pass rusher in the 1st round.

I am not sold on Chubb being THAT MUCH better of a prospect than the likes of:

Harold Landry (Boston College)
Clelim Ferrell (Clemson)
Arden Key (LSU)
Sam Hubbard (Ohio State)

but I would not be against taking him if Ballard and the new coaching staff think he is all that and a box of crackers.

I also would not be opposed to trading down, perhaps multiple times to the middle of the round in order to draft one of the other guys if Ballard and staff think that he is "their" guy.

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OLB Bradley Chubb

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OLB Landry / Ferrell / Key / Hubbard

PLUS

Two extra 2nd round picks (#6 and #13 of round)
One extra 4th round pick (unknown pick as they will make playoffs)

Scenario:

Houston's 1st round pick (#6) + Houston's 2nd round pick + Carolina's 4th round pick (drop from #3 to #6 trade with CLE)
Green Bay's 1st round pick (#13) + Green Bay's 2nd round pick (drop from #6 to #13 trade with GB)

Personally, since top 15 draft picks seem to have about a 50/50 chance of not developing (I cannot find the article currently where I read that), I would like to have some more chances to pick guys in the 2nd round that could help the team. That would end up being 4 picks in the top 49.

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OT if there is one. CB would be ok I guess.

Ilber would have to be one hell of a player to go top 10. I would do it.

In general a top 10 should be qb, o tackle or pass rusher, and wr and cb. Rarely would I pick any other position.
There will be an OT, but I’m surprised you’d say that given that you love Castonzo. I’m actually pretty against drafting an OT as of right now, though Castonzo probably isn’t worth the top flight LT money he’s being paid, he’s still a relative strength and dumping him would just be creating a position that we’d immediately need to replace. Replacing him with a top flight LT from the draft (assuming they pan out) would not be the same as the upgrade would be from Antonio Morrison to Roquan Smith, for example.

And CB? You’re completely opposed to Safety, right? That said, I do think Minkau Fitzpatrick has the potential to be something truly special, so if he grades out significantly higher than Chubb, gotta go with BPA, I suppose.

I love Roquan Smith but I don’t think anyone considers him top 5 talent and I don’t like reaching for him, particularly when we have needs elsewhere. Definitely fine with trading back and trying to add him and another position of need on defense.
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There will be an OT, but I’m surprised you’d say that given that you love Castonzo. I’m actually pretty against drafting an OT as of right now, though Castonzo probably isn’t worth the top flight LT money he’s being paid, he’s still a relative strength and dumping him would just be creating a position that we’d immediately need to replace. Replacing him with a top flight LT from the draft (assuming they pan out) would not be the same as the upgrade would be from Antonio Morrison to Roquan Smith, for example.

And CB? You’re completely opposed to Safety, right? That said, I do think Minkau Fitzpatrick has the potential to be something truly special, so if he grades out significantly higher than Chubb, gotta go with BPA, I suppose.

I love Roquan Smith but I don’t think anyone considers him top 5 talent and I don’t like reaching for him, particularly when we have needs elsewhere. Definitely fine with trading back and trying to add him and another position of need on defense.
i wouldn't dump AC at all. i would at most move him to rt eventually. he is fine at LT. but i don't like that Good keeps getting hurt. and passing on a great OT is just hard for me to do.

i was mainly speaking in generalities as i haven't looked at this draft class much. but no way i take the fitzpatrick kid over the best pass rusher in the draft. unless that pass rusher just wasn't good.
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