Free Agents Discussion

[sherck]

From an NFL.com article titled "Best team fit for notable remaining free agents."


Johnathan Hankins, defensive tackle

NFL fans don't know Hankins well after his first four years in the league, but it's surprising to see NFL teams share the apathy. The defensive tackle market has been slow to develop throughout free agency, with Dontari Poe also still available and Bennie Logan not signing a contract until Monday. Turning 25 years old at the end of the month, Hankins boasts impressive upside and experience as a three-year starter for the Giants. How many 320-pound run stuffers have a seven-sack season on their résumé?

Our No. 3 free agent still available, Hankins has generated suboptimal buzz. He looks destined to wind up on a short-term deal with a team looking for value. The Falcons, Colts, Dolphins and Packers should be in the market for a defensive tackle like Hankins, with the first three teams meeting with Poe. The Colts already have shown an eye for value early in free agency. Getting Hankins at a discount rate would make a lot of sense.

BEST FIT: Indianapolis Colts



While I don't think that he is a true 3-4 NT, he is available, probably cheaper than Poe and would help stabilize the position for a year or two along with perhaps a rookie draft pick and/or Parry if he is retained.

We need someone with beef manning the middle and while Hankins is not ideal, he is a 3-year NFL starter with talent who would be a plus for our defense.

I don't know why this deal and a deal for an ILB is not getting done TODAY.

Cheers,

[smitty46953]

Originally Posted by smitty46953

My Wish List from remaining Free Agents ...

Johnathan Hankins DT
Zack Brown LB
Kevin Minter LB
Darius Butler S/CB
Morris Claiborne CB

Still available ...

[smitty46953]

Originally Posted by sherck

From an NFL.com article titled "Best team fit for notable remaining free agents."


Johnathan Hankins, defensive tackle

NFL fans don't know Hankins well after his first four years in the league, but it's surprising to see NFL teams share the apathy. The defensive tackle market has been slow to develop throughout free agency, with Dontari Poe also still available and Bennie Logan not signing a contract until Monday. Turning 25 years old at the end of the month, Hankins boasts impressive upside and experience as a three-year starter for the Giants. How many 320-pound run stuffers have a seven-sack season on their résumé?

Our No. 3 free agent still available, Hankins has generated suboptimal buzz. He looks destined to wind up on a short-term deal with a team looking for value. The Falcons, Colts, Dolphins and Packers should be in the market for a defensive tackle like Hankins, with the first three teams meeting with Poe. The Colts already have shown an eye for value early in free agency. Getting Hankins at a discount rate would make a lot of sense.

BEST FIT: Indianapolis Colts



While I don't think that he is a true 3-4 NT, he is available, probably cheaper than Poe and would help stabilize the position for a year or two along with perhaps a rookie draft pick and/or Parry if he is retained.

We need someone with beef manning the middle and while Hankins is not ideal, he is a 3-year NFL starter with talent who would be a plus for our defense.

I don't know why this deal and a deal for an ILB is not getting done TODAY.

Cheers,

Been my choice all along ... Won't complain with Poe but think overall Hankins should be here ...

[Maniac]

From the miami herald via rotoworld:

Free agent DT Johnathan Hankins has been holding firm that he wants a multi-year contract.
Hankins, 25 later this month, has surprisingly drawn zero interest in the 7-10 days free agency has been open. Easily one of the best players left on the market, Hankins wants to be a starter and seeks $8 million-plus per year. According to Dolphins ace beat writer Armando Salguero, Miami checked in on Hankins, but he isn't willing to accept a one-year offer. Hankins went into this reportedly wanting a five-year deal at $45 million or more. That's highly unlikely to happen at this stage of free agency. Whoever eventually lands Hankins could be getting a bargain.

[sherck]

Originally Posted by JesusChrist

Free agent DT Johnathan Hankins has been holding firm that he wants a multi-year contract.
Hankins, 25 later this month, has surprisingly drawn zero interest in the 7-10 days free agency has been open. Easily one of the best players left on the market, Hankins wants to be a starter and seeks $8 million-plus per year. According to Dolphins ace beat writer Armando Salguero, Miami checked in on Hankins, but he isn't willing to accept a one-year offer. Hankins went into this reportedly wanting a five-year deal at $45 million or more. That's highly unlikely to happen at this stage of free agency. Whoever eventually lands Hankins could be getting a bargain.

I would give him a multi-year deal....say 3-year, $15 - 18m to come play NT for us.

That would give Hankins the opportunity to develop into a stud NT for us and then get paid his next contract at 28 years old in the Brandon Williams range

-- OR --

Gives us up to 2 years to find his replacement through the draft and groom him to take over once Hankins walks at the end of the contract.

I don't think Hankins will be world class as a 3-4 NT unless he develops more than he has so far in his career.

But, he would be solid/good/NFL average which is what we need right now as we find, hopefully, draftee studs over the next 2 - 3 years to fill in at the top of our defensive depth chart.

You have to have everyone be NFL average for the impact players to then be able to do their job well. We need NFL average everywhere before anyone stud we draft will shine.

Hankins will probably be NFL average at a spot that I don't think the draft will provide for. We might get a low round NT backup in the draft but not a day one starter.

Cheers,

[sherck]

Interesting quote about our new interior O-lineman, Brian Schwenke.

Earlier today, new Colts offensive lineman Brian Schwenke had a chance to speak with the media, and he explained the reason he signed with the Colts: he said they offered him an “opportunity to compete” for a starting spot, according to the Anderson Herald Bulletin’s George Bremer.

Additionally, FOX59’s Mike Chappell noted that Schwenke said he knows it will be at right guard instead of center because Ryan Kelly is already entrenched as the starting center.

A question many have been asking since the Colts signed Schwenke a few days ago has been what the lineman’s role will be, with most assuming that it will probably be as a depth guard/center, in a very similar role to the one that Jonotthan Harrison occupied last year. But Schwenke seemed to make it clear that he’ll have an opportunity to compete for the starting right guard spot.

That statement shouldn’t come as any surprise, however, especially if you’ve been paying attention to Chris Ballard’s emphasis on competition. The new Colts GM is looking to increase the competition level all over Indy’s roster so that guys have to fight for starting spots, and it’s likely that all of his free agency moves will be driven at least somewhat by that desire to improve competition. So with Brian Schwenke, the Colts add a guy who has played in 41 games and started 28 of them during his time with the Titans to push Joe Haeg, Le’Raven Clark, and Denzelle Good on the right side of the line. That’s a good thing.

None of that means that Schwenke will wind up as the starting right guard, however, as it’s probably best to think of Joe Haeg as still being the frontrunner to start at that spot. But the Colts don’t want to just hand those spots that are up for grabs out automatically, so they’re adding guys like Brian Schwenke to compete. He choose the Colts because of that, and it’s been a major emphasis by Chris Ballard already during his short time in Indianapolis. That emphasis will surely continue, too - and it means we’ll have a competition to monitor on the right side of the Colts’ line this offseason and into training camp.

I like it. Schwenke is not all-pro but he is solid enough to be a 28 game starter. He will push Haeg, Clark and Good to be better and that will make our entire O-Line better.

Depending on the contract size, this was a great move. I cannot imagine that the contract will be huge considering he was not signed as the "starter" from the bat and I am predicting about $2.5m a year average for him.

Cheers,

[Maniac]

Originally Posted by sherck

I would give him a multi-year deal....say 3-year, $15 - 18m to come play NT for us.

That would give Hankins the opportunity to develop into a stud NT for us and then get paid his next contract at 28 years old in the Brandon Williams range

-- OR --

Gives us up to 2 years to find his replacement through the draft and groom him to take over once Hankins walks at the end of the contract.

I don't think Hankins will be world class as a 3-4 NT unless he develops more than he has so far in his career.

But, he would be solid/good/NFL average which is what we need right now as we find, hopefully, draftee studs over the next 2 - 3 years to fill in at the top of our defensive depth chart.

You have to have everyone be NFL average for the impact players to then be able to do their job well. We need NFL average everywhere before anyone stud we draft will shine.

Hankins will probably be NFL average at a spot that I don't think the draft will provide for. We might get a low round NT backup in the draft but not a day one starter.

Cheers,

$5m-$6m would be worth signing him. If he's insisting on $8m+, then that's too much IMO

[natagu23]

Originally Posted by sherck

I would give him a multi-year deal....say 3-year, $15 - 18m to come play NT for us.

That would give Hankins the opportunity to develop into a stud NT for us and then get paid his next contract at 28 years old in the Brandon Williams range

-- OR --

Gives us up to 2 years to find his replacement through the draft and groom him to take over once Hankins walks at the end of the contract.

I don't think Hankins will be world class as a 3-4 NT unless he develops more than he has so far in his career.

But, he would be solid/good/NFL average which is what we need right now as we find, hopefully, draftee studs over the next 2 - 3 years to fill in at the top of our defensive depth chart.

You have to have everyone be NFL average for the impact players to then be able to do their job well. We need NFL average everywhere before anyone stud we draft will shine.

Hankins will probably be NFL average at a spot that I don't think the draft will provide for. We might get a low round NT backup in the draft but not a day one starter.

Cheers,

Hankins has the potential to be a good NT.

He and "Snacks" were pretty disruptive and were a force against the run.

The thing I like about him is his ability to get pressure on the QB.

[HoosierinFL]

Originally Posted by JesusChrist

$5m-$6m would be worth signing him. If he's insisting on $8m+, then that's too much IMO

I'd give him $8m/yr on a 2 year deal. If he wants a longer deal it has to be for less.

[FatDT]

I don't want Hankins. He's gotten fat since college and I don't think that would get any better with a big FA contract.