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Old 08-30-2023, 10:05 PM
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I know there is a lot of angst about the current roster, but I live close enough to get Nashville sports radio. They are freaking out about the fact they have NO backup center right now. They are freaking out about players not released, and players that were released.

It seems every team has people who jump off proverbial cliffs like we do.
Too much minute by minute info makes fans hysterical

Meanwhile in New England

- Only carrying ONE Quarterback (Mac Jones

- Only carrying TWO Running Backs (Zeke & Rhamondre)

- Only carrying TWO Tight Ends (Henry & Gesicki)

It would seem with 7 Wide Receivers, 5 Safeties, and 7 Cornerbacks So position battles still occurring.


And then at the eagles

- The Eagles are carrying only FOUR wide receivers - AJ Brown, Devonta Smith, Quez Watkins, and Olamide Zaccheaus.

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I’d pump the brakes a little. He hasn’t even played a down of his second season. And also you can’t forget the context of they fired the O coordinator and head coach. The system took a nosedive in creativity. A nobody was calling plays and Saturday was the head coach. He’s actually had some good buzz this training camp.
That's fair. He has looked like shit in the preseason games though. Hopefully it doesn't mean anything when the actual games start.
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That's fair. He has looked like shit in the preseason games though. Hopefully it doesn't mean anything when the actual games start.

Had a couple drops, had done other interference.
I think mainly he’s played the deep threat and they’re trying to connect with him and everyone knows it’s coming. Low percentage passes. Wr is one of the toughest positions to learn and play in the nfl. Gotta be patient with most guys.
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Had a couple drops, had done other interference.
I think mainly he’s played the deep threat and they’re trying to connect with him and everyone knows it’s coming. Low percentage passes. Wr is one of the toughest positions to learn and play in the nfl. Gotta be patient with most guys.
Not just the drops. He's not getting any separation at all either. Even against 2nd and 3rd stringers in the Philly game.
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Not just the drops. He's not getting any separation at all either. Even against 2nd and 3rd stringers in the Philly game.
Might need to improve his route running then. See how he does in his second season.
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Once D Coordinators got some film on him and realized his route running limitations he pretty much disappeared. 197 yards for the final 8 games of the season, and 86 of those were in the blowout loss to Dallas. I know it's just preseason, but it doesn't look like he's improved at all. Straight down the sideline, no separation, and dropped passes. He was playing against 2nd and 3rd stringers in Philly, and he still couldn't get any separation.
meh, we also had shit QB play and shit pass protection, so the entire passing offense was crap, I wouldn't get too dramatic about Pierce's numbers being about his own limitations.
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Wr is one of the toughest positions to learn and play in the nfl. Gotta be patient with most guys.
Reggie Wayne's first three seasons (with Peyton Manning):

345yds, 0td
716yds, 4td
838yds, 7td

Steadily improved, didn't have his breakout until year-4. Give the kid time. Whether he's a bust or a gem, he's not going to show you right away.
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Reggie Wayne's first three seasons (with Peyton Manning):

345yds, 0td
716yds, 4td
838yds, 7td

Steadily improved, didn't have his breakout until year-4. Give the kid time. Whether he's a bust or a gem, he's not going to show you right away.
Reggie is usually my fallback example, but I’m sure he knows that. Everyone was declaring him a bust after year two I think.
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Reggie Wayne's first three seasons (with Peyton Manning):

345yds, 0td
716yds, 4td
838yds, 7td

Steadily improved, didn't have his breakout until year-4. Give the kid time. Whether he's a bust or a gem, he's not going to show you right away.
things have changed some since then. wr's are much better prepared for the nfl nowadays then back then
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things have changed some since then. wr's are much better prepared for the nfl nowadays then back then
Well, that's true in that there are more Randy Moss-esque cases of a rookie coming in playing well right away. But there are still plenty of WR's that require time before they flourish.

Davante Adams is a more recent, post-2011 boom example:

446yds, 3tds
483yds, 1td
997yds, 12td
885yds, 10td

Slow first two years, broke out in year-3, still didn't crack 1000yds til year-5 when he became a consistent 1300-1500yd guy. Doesn't mean Pierce will become that good, just means we might not know for the first few years.
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