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Old 10-08-2023, 11:50 AM
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If he has a great year, they could still trade him, but they'll get a lot better deal than they would have a few weeks ago.
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Old 10-08-2023, 12:27 PM
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I have no doubt that if Taylor had come back without an extension, played well and demonstrated that a Richardson/Taylor combo was as lethal as everyone hoped, then he would have gotten a far better deal from the Colts. The Colts have shown no hesitancy in the past to provide cutting-edge contracts to their homegrown stars. Taylor's injury issues seem to have brought the contract value way down.

The fact that Taylor was willing to commit himself to a discounted contract before getting an opportunity to demonstrate his skills in a game setting does concern me somewhat, I'll admit.
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Old 10-08-2023, 01:12 PM
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Why would that be a concern? Whatever opportunity there was to showcase his talents (something I am sure he believes he has already done) has to be counterbalanced by the opportunity to get injured. How much more would he have made by playing without a contract extension? The difference would be maybe 2-3 million more a year, maybe. If you are looking for some generational wealth there isn't much difference in lifestyle between 26 million (his guarantee) and say 30 million whereas there is a shitload of difference between 26 million and zilch (if he is injured). Most of us would same the same decision.
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Old 10-08-2023, 01:51 PM
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Why would that be a concern? Whatever opportunity there was to showcase his talents (something I am sure he believes he has already done) has to be counterbalanced by the opportunity to get injured. How much more would he have made by playing without a contract extension? The difference would be maybe 2-3 million more a year, maybe. If you are looking for some generational wealth there isn't much difference in lifestyle between 26 million (his guarantee) and say 30 million whereas there is a shitload of difference between 26 million and zilch (if he is injured). Most of us would same the same decision.
Yes, what you are saying is true in any contract negotiation (there is always a risk of injury), but usually doesn't result in the player taking a discounted contract. Taylor appears to have been willing to accept one here, which is the source of my concern.
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Old 10-09-2023, 12:56 PM
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Noticed that Spotrac has updated their website with details from the new contract. Note: Spotrac may continue to edit these details over the next week or so as they investigate with other sources.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/indianap...-taylor-47636/


3 year, $42,000,000 contract, $26,500,000 guaranteed

Includes a $10,248,000 signing bonus which they prorate over 4 years.

$20,304,000 guaranteed at signing (signing bonus + remaining 2023 salary + 2024 salary + 2024 per game active bonus)

$7,152,445 of 2025 salary fully guarantees March 17th, 2024 (this amount is injury guaranteed only at contract signing)

2024 Per Game Active Bonus: $30,000 ($510,000, guaranteed)

2025-26 Per Game Active Bonus: $60,000 ($1.02M)


The third year of the contract is not guaranteed and takes no cap space other than the prorated portion of the signing bonus.
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Ugh. Can't stand him. I can't cheer for a player I can't stand.
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Old 10-09-2023, 02:26 PM
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Ugh. Can't stand him. I can't cheer for a player I can't stand.
These guys sacrifice their present and future health to entertain us and excite us. It’s not personal, its business. Its not your money he’s getting, Its Irsays. I did everything I could to maximize my benefits and final salary so I could retire with a larger Soc. Security and state retirement $$ and nobody complained. (I suspect there were some who would have held the exit door for me.) If you make it into the NFL and dont max your pay while getting the shit beat out of you, you are stupid.
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These guys sacrifice their present and future health to entertain us and excite us. It’s not personal, its business. Its not your money he’s getting, Its Irsays. I did everything I could to maximize my benefits and final salary so I could retire with a larger Soc. Security and state retirement $$ and nobody complained. (I suspect there were some who would have held the exit door for me.) If you make it into the NFL and dont max your pay while getting the shit beat out of you, you are stupid.
I don't care, I'm just a fan. From my perspective, Mali Kawa runs the Colts with his Leonard and dickhead Taylor contracts. Congrats on your social security accounts.
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Old 10-09-2023, 04:03 PM
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Ugh. Can't stand him. I can't cheer for a player I can't stand.
You don't even know him. No use having such ill feelings for a guy whose job is to entertain in the fashion of a gladiator.
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Old 10-09-2023, 04:32 PM
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You don't even know him. No use having such ill feelings for a guy whose job is to entertain in the fashion of a gladiator.
Of course I don't know him; he's an NFL player and I'm just a random fan. I still think he's a dickhead and I can't stand him. Mali Kawa needs to find us a WR for Minchew...our QB1. Get on it, Boss Kawa. Sam! Get your shoes on.
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