2017 Draft Thread

[VeveJones007]

If Foster isn't there, I'd love to see them move back in round 1 while also adding that team's 2nd (yes, the Colts would have to add maybe a 4th to get that done). They could end up with something like:

1 - OLB Charles Harris
2- CB Sidney Jones
2 - ILB McMillan

[Puck]

Originally Posted by Coltsalr

Melvin is a better starter than Morrison/Jackson.

If you can't see that, I can't help you.

Maybe if we get enough LBers we can play without CBs at all

[Coltsalr]

Originally Posted by Puck

Maybe if we get enough LBers we can play without CBs at all

If you can find the mythical CB that can cover for 15 seconds while there's no pass rush being generated and/or handle the cover responsibilities of a WR and the TE/RB that our incompetent ILB's are responsible for, then sure, by all means, ignore the LB position.

Until you find this mythical unicorn for a CB, however, I'm going to hone in on the position of greater importance that's in greater need of a talent infusion.

[Coltsalr]

Originally Posted by VeveJones007

If Foster isn't there, I'd love to see them move back in round 1 while also adding that team's 2nd (yes, the Colts would have to add maybe a 4th to get that done). They could end up with something like:

1 - ILB Charles Harris
2- CB Sidney Jones
2 - ILB McMillan

Agreed, I would just reverse the order on ILB/OLB.

As sherck said above, the dropoff from Foster/Cunningham/Davis (and Reddick, depending on if you think he's an ILB or not in this defense) to McMillian is pretty steep.

I think we could reasonably come out with, however:

1. OLB-Davis/Cunnigham
2- CB- Sidney Jones
3- Tim Williams/Carl Lawson

I don't think the talent-level dropoff between Harris to Williams/Lawson is as steep as the talent level dropoff from Cunnigham/Davis to McMillian, in other words.

[Puck]

Originally Posted by Coltsalr

Agreed, I would just reverse the order on ILB/OLB.

As sherck said above, the dropoff from Foster/Cunningham/Davis (and Reddick, depending on if you think he's an ILB or not in this defense) to McMillian is pretty steep.

I think we could reasonably come out with, however:

1. ILB-Davis/Cunnigham
2- CB- Sidney Jones
3- Tim Williams/Carl Lawson

I don't think the talent-level dropoff between Harris to Williams/Lawson is as steep as the talent level dropoff from Cunnigham/Davis to McMillian, in other words.

Actually he said that the drop off after Garrett is steep then the rest are all very close, not much of a drop from 2-15 and beyond

[Puck]

Originally Posted by Coltsalr

If you can find the mythical CB that can cover for 15 seconds while there's no pass rush being generated and/or handle the cover responsibilities of a WR and the TE/RB that our incompetent ILB's are responsible for, then sure, by all means, ignore the LB position.

Until you find this mythical unicorn for a CB, however, I'm going to hone in on the position of greater importance that's in greater need of a talent infusion.

I am not sure why you keep pounding the table about no pass rush now after the FA period. Simon and Sheard will more than likely be the starting OLBs Spence who apparently you are greatly under rating will be an ILB along with Jackson (my guess) They will add in the draft but to think it has to be at 15 is nonsense.

[Coltsalr]

Originally Posted by Puck

Actually he said that the drop off after Garrett is steep then the rest are all very close, not much of a drop from 2-15 and beyond

Read it again, Garrett is in the pass rush group, I was taking about the ILB group, which he also addressed, and the dropoff I'm talking about aligns with the same one he cited.

[Coltsalr]

Originally Posted by Puck

I am not sure why you keep pounding the table about no pass rush now after the FA period. Simon and Sheard will more than likely be the starting OLBs Spence who apparently you are greatly under rating will be an ILB along with Jackson (my guess) They will add in the draft but to think it has to be at 15 is nonsense.

You need more than two competent OLB's to generate a consistent pass rush, I hope you know.

And Jackson showed nothing to indicate he'll be anything resembling a solid starter. Melvin is better, comparatively, than Jackson. Thus, the need at ILB is greater.

[Puck]

Originally Posted by Coltsalr

You need more than two competent OLB's to generate a consistent pass rush, I hope you know.

And Jackson showed nothing to indicate he'll be anything resembling a solid starter. Melvin is better, comparatively, than Jackson. Thus, the need at ILB is greater.

Sure but they don't need to have 4 Pro Bowl OLB to do this. You sound more like Dam every day

[Coltsalr]

Originally Posted by Puck

Sure but they don't need to have 4 Pro Bowl OLB to do this. You sound more like Dam every day

We don't have even one Pro Bowl OLB. We do, however, have one Pro Bowl CB.

You sound more and more like Skip Bayless everyday.