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Old 11-21-2018, 09:50 AM
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Default Good article on Wilson

He admits the reason he was in the dog house was no effort on practice field

I know a lot of you were upset he wasn’t playing. Now we know why. And they is good on Pags and now Eberflus for not rewarding his talent over his attitude


https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.ind...amp/2072511002
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Old 11-21-2018, 10:04 AM
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We need some upgrades at cb. At this point I think his effort will always be an issue
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Interesting article, but if he spent a year and a half as a slacker, chances are, he IS a slacker. If he actually can turn it around for good, that's great, but I wouldn't rely on it.
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This is a really solid article and it speaks to one of the key drawbacks to a youth movement: veteran leadership. It's obvious from this piece that Wilson needed a pro to show him how it's done. Whether or not that turns around Wilson's season/career remains to be seen, but this is a positive development.
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Interesting article, but if he spent a year and a half as a slacker, chances are, he IS a slacker. If he actually can turn it around for good, that's great, but I wouldn't rely on it.
I think you're going too far here. He's 22 years old and clearly didn't have older players showing him the ropes. It sounds more like he's been winging it so far, but is now putting in the work after a little guidance. It could simply be ignorance of youth.

Of course you are right that he could end up being a slacker and never fulfilling his potential, but I'm significantly more encouraged about his prospects after reading that piece.
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I think you're going too far here. He's 22 years old and clearly didn't have older players showing him the ropes. It sounds more like he's been winging it so far, but is now putting in the work after a little guidance. It could simply be ignorance of youth.

Of course you are right that he could end up being a slacker and never fulfilling his potential, but I'm significantly more encouraged about his prospects after reading that piece.
The "didn't have a vet to show him the ropes" excuse is just BS. That may matter on technique and such, but not on effort and laziness. You don't need a vet to show you how not to be lazy.

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The "didn't have a vet to show him the ropes" excuse is just BS. That may matter on technique and such, but not on effort and laziness. You don't need a vet to show you how not to be lazy.
You're only considering effort on the field. What about understanding the value of film study, or even how to watch film and translate it into on-field adjustments? What about being young, single, with a million dollars in your bank account? Might a respected, more mature compatriot help?

Also, I've read and heard a lot of interviews of professional athletes talking about how they only had to rely on their athleticism their entire life and how big of an adjustment it was when they got to the pros and they had to do things they never had to do before.

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He admits the reason he was in the dog house was no effort on practice field

I know a lot of you were upset he wasn’t playing. Now we know why. And they is good on Pags and now Eberflus for not rewarding his talent over his attitude


https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.ind...amp/2072511002
Good, hopefully he's turned it around and can become what we all hoped for from him. That said, why is a veteran player coming in and showing this 2nd year player how to watch film? That's definitely a thing the coaches should be doing.
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Good, hopefully he's turned it around and can become what we all hoped for from him. That said, why is a veteran player coming in and showing this 2nd year player how to watch film? That's definitely a thing the coaches should be doing.
And yet Pagano never did.
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Old 11-21-2018, 01:29 PM
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I know a lot of you were upset he wasn’t playing. Now we know why. And they is good on Pags and now Eberflus for not rewarding his talent over his attitude
His attitude was on him. So I can understand why Pagano didn't just put him in the game despite the way he outplayed some of the other players.

But it says a lot that he figured out he wasn't going anywhere and was running out of time. He has admitted what he did wrong and that he needed to do better. So he humbled himself and sought out help, shut up, and learned from someone who knew what to do.

There are sullen losers who never do that. They have talent but blame others and refuse to do what it takes to improve. They think they are the best, because they've always been, and so if something is holding them back it must be someone else's fault. That's not what I am seeing here from Wilson.

I will agree with Dam (though I see the irony here given the subject of coaching) that it's stupid it took 1.5 years and a recent veteran signing to get through to him. This is a position coach's job, or a defensive QC assistant's job. If a player is doing something wrong, you can't just punish him and wait for him to somehow just magically become better. You have to show him what to do. The effort is on him, the teaching is not. Where were the coaches in this situation?

I'm glad he seems to be turning it around. I hope the end part of the article is right and that he understands putting in effort isn't a 2-3 week thing, it's a rest-of-his-career thing. He has the talent, if he puts in the effort he can be a CB1.

I also hope Mitchell's influence will have a positive effect on Hooker, who I think also needs help reaching his potential. I don't think he's not trying, he is just relatively new to football and I would not be surprised if he also is ignorant of a number of things it takes to be a top NFL DB.
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