My take

[ChaosTheory]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

What a shocking development, who could have ever guessed that would happen?

What did you think of Ehlinger's arm strength?

[HoosierinFL]

Originally Posted by rcubed

also, I never want to see hines running between the tackles again. they say they want to get him the ball more but dont seem to scheme to his talents. he needs to be out in space as evidenced by some of his receptions and his touchdown run to the outside.

A weird thing I notice with this staff is that they don't use players situationally. They just plug and play. Guys get rotated in and out seemingly just to keep fresh legs, and the play calling style never changes based on who is in/out.

So if the situation dictates a run up the middle, they don't sub in JT (or even Jackson). If Hines is already in for this drive, then they'll call that play and leave him on the field.
Well this is true for the offense anyway, and I wonder if it is still a case of Reich should not be calling the plays - let the OC and his position coaches run the game with play calls and personnel groupings.

I notice the defense does a much better job of subbing in situational packages.

[CletusPyle]

Originally Posted by ChaosTheory

Frank said he debated the call. He went with the odds that the defense, who was stout most of the day, would keep them out of the endzone with a long field. I can't see criticizing that call.

I mean, look at what it came down to... Heinicke basically throws a hail-mary type pass from midfield. Gilmore, one the best CB's ever, still gets himself into great position. But then McLaurin makes a fucking unbelievable play going over the top just to get simultaneous possession, and then finishes the unbelievable play by tearing the ball away from Gilmore. What are the odds?

(by the way, none of that matters if we don't fumble twice in the RZ)

But imagine if we turn the ball over right there at our 34 and they still eat the clock and score. The man would be crucified.

For all the times I have criticized Frank for taking reckless chances that have backfired, I do feel a little guilty criticizing him for not going for the sure win. But I agreed with C&O when he said it yesterday before the play and I still do, I would have gone for it! Would he have been second guessed and "crucified" had they failed and Washington scored....of course. But it wasn't like they only needed a FG to win, so even if you fail to make the first down, it's not unreasonable to expect your defense to hold them out of the endzone! I think it was worth the risk!

[albany ed]

Originally Posted by ChaosTheory

What did you think of Ehlinger's arm strength?

Not really a NFL strength arm, but not bad.

[Brylok]

Tyquan Lewis is out for the rest of the season. Same injury as last time. Just heard it on the Dakich show.

[ChaosTheory]

Originally Posted by albany ed

Not really a NFL strength arm, but not bad.

That's what I hear. I know he's not Mahomes throwing in from midfield through the uprights on one knee or some crazy shit... I guess I'm trying to figure out what throws we don't think he can make.

That dropped pass by Pittman at the end was pretty. 25 yards in the air, right in stride, between two DB's.

Or the big throw to Pierce... that was 50 yards in the air, again right in stride.

[ChaosTheory]

Originally Posted by Brylok

Tyquan Lewis is out for the rest of the season. Same injury as last time. Just heard it on the Dakich show.

Expected, but that really sucks. That dude started looking good last year before the injury, surprisingly came back quick and looked good again. That one stings.

[Lov2fish]

Originally Posted by ChaosTheory

That's what I hear. I know he's not Mahomes throwing in from midfield through the uprights on one knee or some crazy shit... I guess I'm trying to figure out what throws we don't think he can make.

That dropped pass by Pittman at the end was pretty. 25 yards in the air, right in stride, between two DB's.

Or the big throw to Pierce... that was 50 yards in the air, again right in stride.

His arm is plenty strong enough to make all the throws. His accuracy surprised me most. I knew he could move around in the pocket, and get out when it collapses (Which is a lot with us) He plays like that all year, works with a QB guru again this off season and that changes our draft dynamics. Like I said, one game so not gonna call him "IT" but he looked the part in his debut.

[omahacolt]

Originally Posted by HoosierinFL

My take is that even though Sam looked pretty good and made some plays that Ryan could not have made - I still think Ryan would have had a pretty decent passing game against that defense.

That said, I repeat that because Sam was able to make some plays on his feet, we were able to sustain more drives than Ryan.

I think it boils down to 2 things we all already know: the oline is bad, and Reich’s play calling is stupid.

Quenton Nelson is a worn out pussy.

i have some gripes with the playcalling yesterday but overall i thought it was pretty good

[YDFL Commish]

Originally Posted by HoosierinFL

A weird thing I notice with this staff is that they don't use players situationally. They just plug and play. Guys get rotated in and out seemingly just to keep fresh legs, and the play calling style never changes based on who is in/out.

So if the situation dictates a run up the middle, they don't sub in JT (or even Jackson). If Hines is already in for this drive, then they'll call that play and leave him on the field.
Well this is true for the offense anyway, and I wonder if it is still a case of Reich should not be calling the plays - let the OC and his position coaches run the game with play calls and personnel groupings.

I notice the defense does a much better job of subbing in situational packages.

I so much agree with this. Instead of Hynes being the de facto backup to JT, he should only play his role, which should be a Kevin Faulk type role.

Deon Jackson is the more logical backup to JT. Hynes can be a difference maker when used properly, but we only occasionally use him properly.

Also I can't stand Reich's reliance on so many personnel groupings. Just stick to 2 to 3 personnel groupings that are game plan specific.

But no, he's gotta use all the chess pieces, even if many are pawns.