2021 NFL Draft thread - Day 1 discussion

[Oldcolt]

Dam you keep stating he had only two sacks last year. While true he only played in 4 games.

[Puck]

Originally Posted by rcubed

Ballard says he has really good tape in answer to first question (see whole interview on colts.com). Later says tape is super important to him and is a requirement to be considered in first round.

Yep

Here is a different video I picked the wrong one the 1st time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YVAy9VWXC8

Also talks about how the OT's were not prototypical OT's and not near as good as Paye.

I won't be surprised if passes on OT again tonight.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by Oldcolt

Dam you keep stating he had only two sacks last year. While true he only played in 4 games.

So should I have an injury concern or a production concern? Or both, considering he didn't produce much more in his full seasons?

[TheMugwump]

Not trying to pile on Dam, but every time he mentions that Paye has no pass rush moves, that he, "Never shows a push-pull, a cross chop, a dip and rip, a swim, a spin, nothing, he just runs into the OT and tries to push him back into the QB like Zach Allen did", I get more convinced that he will be a great pick.

All of those moves are coached, He's been at Michigan. Loved Harbs here as a QB, but he hasn't been known to get the most out of his talent. Especially recently. Especially on the defensive side of the ball.

So yeah, put him in a room with Mathis and Houston. Teach him some moves. He'll be alright.

[rcubed]

Originally Posted by Puck

Yep

Here is a different video I picked the wrong one the 1st time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YVAy9VWXC8

Also talks about how the OT's were not prototypical OT's and not near as good as Paye.

I won't be surprised if passes on OT again tonight.

yep, and that explains why he didnt take an OT at 21, But it would surprise me if he didnt take one today, too big of a need and will be value in second round even if not prototypical.

note: surprised, but not shocked.

ah hell, he will probably take a WR and sign OT from whats left in FA

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by rcubed

yep, and that explains why he didnt take an OT at 21, But it would surprise me if he didnt take one today, too big of a need and will be value in second round even if not prototypical.

note: surprised, but not shocked.

ah hell, he will probably take a WR and sign OT from whats left in FA

I gotta believe that Villanueva is in their sights as plan B.

[Chromeburn]

Voch Lombadi does a breakdown of Paye

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeKbBu9u9m8

[Oldcolt]

He seems to be a monster in the run. That is nice to hear. He has, apparently, excellent technique in the run, technique he was taught so he is teachable. I do like how disciplined he appear to be. He may not solve our pass rush problems all by himself but I doubt anybody will see him as any sort of weak link. He will improve since it seems he can be coached.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by TheMugwump

Not trying to pile on Dam, but every time he mentions that Paye has no pass rush moves, that he, "Never shows a push-pull, a cross chop, a dip and rip, a swim, a spin, nothing, he just runs into the OT and tries to push him back into the QB like Zach Allen did", I get more convinced that he will be a great pick.

All of those moves are coached, He's been at Michigan. Loved Harbs here as a QB, but he hasn't been known to get the most out of his talent. Especially recently. Especially on the defensive side of the ball.

So yeah, put him in a room with Mathis and Houston. Teach him some moves. He'll be alright.

That's the risk. Can he learn it? Because if he can't, he's Zach Allen who can move a little better. Ballard is making a big bet on his coaching staff. I hope it pays off.

[Chromeburn]

He seems a direct replacement for Autry really. Can play the run now, has some pass rush potential. Can move inside and play multiple positions. He’s gonna need some work. Seems like a smart player though, his responsibilities seemed to be set the edge then go depending on the play. Will have QB responsibilities on RPO’s. He reminds me a little of Solomon Thomas.