2017 Draft Thread

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by VeveJones007

100% agree with this. I think way too much is being made out of Reddick's size (237 lbs). Guys like Clay Matthews and Robert Mathis certainly proved to have great careers on the EDGE when "undersized."

I don't think he'll be there, though. I'd be shocked if he isn't in the top 10 after his last three months.

Don't forget James Harrison.

[VeveJones007]

Originally Posted by natagu23

Part of the problem is that we're not utilizing Dorsett nearly enough or the way he is supposed to used.

You pair Dorsett with Rodgers or Brady..... 800+ yard season and other accomplishments are practically a given.

800 yards from a 1st round WR is a waste of a pick. Those guys have to be true difference makers.

[natagu23]

Originally Posted by VeveJones007

800 yards from a 1st round WR is a waste of a pick. Those guys have to be true difference makers.

I could be wrong, but Dorsett is not one of those guys unfortunately.

A good slot receiver......maybe???

[VeveJones007]

Originally Posted by natagu23

I could be wrong, but Dorsett is not one of those guys unfortunately.

A good slot receiver......maybe???

I've stuck my flag squarely in the "Dorsett sucks, regardless the coaching" camp. We'll see if I'm wrong, but all I've seen is a guy who can stretch a defense.

[smitty46953]

Originally Posted by VeveJones007

I've stuck my flag squarely in the "Dorsett sucks, regardless the coaching" camp. We'll see if I'm wrong, but all I've seen is a guy who can stretch a defense.

I agree, I know some were ok with that pick... However, I fired Grigson right after that pick in my mind.

[njcoltfan]

Originally Posted by Butter

Certainly better, but not enough to have made much difference.

Let's see, Dorsett is on the verge of being a bust, and Collins is an All-Pro, I think the defense would be light years better, not to mention that had the Colts drafted Collins they probably would not have drafted Green!!

[Butter]

One Safety is not going to make this D "Light years" better.

[YDFL Commish]

Originally Posted by VeveJones007

I've stuck my flag squarely in the "Dorsett sucks, regardless the coaching" camp. We'll see if I'm wrong, but all I've seen is a guy who can stretch a defense.

I'm not going to disagree. To this point Dorsett has sucked. But at the same time I believe that he's not being used properly.

How many times has been thrown a slant?

How many times has he been thrown a bubble screen?

How many times has he been thrown a crossing pattern?

None of the passes I mentioned above are difficult route concepts, even for a college WR. So, it's not that Dorsett can't run the routes.

I don't know what it is, but since Arians left, Pep and Chud have basically made defense only have to defend the middle to the deep portions of the field vertically.

I don't know if it's Luck's preference or a Pagano thing. But you just can't win in this day and age without making the defense defend the whole field.

[njcoltfan]

Originally Posted by Butter

One Safety is not going to make this D "Light years" better.

You can't be saying that with a straight face

[Butter]

Originally Posted by njcoltfan

You can't be saying that with a straight face

Huh? You really think 1 player let alone a Saftey would makes this D somehow good last season? the lack of pass rush and terrible LB play would not be made up for by even a Bob Sanders.