2017 Draft Thread

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by Puck

Right now at CB we have Davis Melvin and Duke Williams Mathias Farley or . Tevin Mitchel. AND Davis is in a contract yr. I think this is the worst group on the team now

LB says hi.

[VeveJones007]

Originally Posted by Puck

Right now at CB we have Davis Melvin and Duke Williams Mathias Farley or . Tevin Mitchel. AND Davis is in a contract yr. I think this is the worst group on the team now

Everyone knows that the corners suck. They absolutely need to improve there. They still need to improve at LB, too. You take BPA and work from there. As Irsay said today, you aren't fixing the defense in a single draft. Don't flip your shit if they go BPA and don't fully address CB in this draft. We can only evaluate after a few drafts.

[Coltsalr]

Our LB's, particularly our starters, are as follows, our two starting OLB's are two nice role players (Simon/Sheard) that have proven themselves to be quite nice in role playing roles, but not as starters, and amongst defense and coaching staffs that are far superior to ours. I'm still bullish on them, but to act like we couldn't stand to pad our depth around is foolish. Our starting ILB's are Sean Spence, who's maybe an average starter at best, who has weaknesses where we need strengths and Antonio Morrison, who was below average, to put it as absolutely kindly as I can and isn't likely to ever become average.

Our CB's currently contain Vontae Davis, who's an above average starter at the very worst and top-tier when he's at the top of his game. He might not be that guy anymore, but like I said, he's still above average. Rashaan Melvin was an okay player last year. I don't love him and I know he isn't wonderful, but he's not a trainwreck on par with Antonio Morrison. Combine that with Darius Butler being able to help compensate from the Safety position, and the position isn't on total life support.

And again, by sheer virtue of pass rush being the biggest part of a defense in general, the LB's are a bigger need. They just are.

[Puck]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

LB says hi.

So who are your starting CB's? I showed who will start at LB

The Lbers have been addressed in FA the corners have not at all

[sherck]

Obviously, our roster is SCREAMING for a veteran CB to be signed even if we end up taking multiple CBs in the 2017 draft. And there are still a few available that I think could help us: Alterraun Verner, Corey White, B.W. Webb, Nickell Robey-Coleman.

However, at this point, since Ballard has not made a move in about a week, I would guess that none of them fit what he is looking for.

My guess is that Ballard is now going to wait until the "surprise" camp cut phase of free agency to find a veteran CB to come in and either start opposite Davis in 2017 or give a veteran "push" to a rookie who wins the job.

I don't think that we are going to get a solution to CB shortly; we will need to be patient until Week 1 of the NFL season to see what the "plan" ends up being.

But, even though we are "re-stocking" over the course of a couple of years, I would be surprised if no veteran CB is brought in unless we end up using 1-15 and then our 2nd or 3rd round picks on CB as well and they just kill it in camp.

Cheers,

[VeveJones007]

Originally Posted by sherck

Obviously, our roster is SCREAMING for a veteran CB to be signed even if we end up taking multiple CBs in the 2017 draft. And there are still a few available that I think could help us: Alterraun Verner, Corey White, B.W. Webb, Nickell Robey-Coleman.

However, at this point, since Ballard has not made a move in about a week, I would guess that none of them fit what he is looking for.

My guess is that Ballard is now going to wait until the "surprise" camp cut phase of free agency to find a veteran CB to come in and either start opposite Davis in 2017 or give a veteran "push" to a rookie who wins the job.

I don't think that we are going to get a solution to CB shortly; we will need to be patient until Week 1 of the NFL season to see what the "plan" ends up being.

But, even though we are "re-stocking" over the course of a couple of years, I would be surprised if no veteran CB is brought in unless we end up using 1-15 and then our 2nd or 3rd round picks on CB as well and they just kill it in camp.

Cheers,

I really think that Ballard trusts his scouting ability for corners. He probably has a couple that he's targeting in the draft, maybe early, maybe late.

[YDFL Commish]

Originally Posted by Coltsalr

Morrison, speaking of, ran 5.1 40 last year at his Pro Day for comparison sake.

Is this really an accurate number? 5.10 is crazy slow. For an ILB that is considered un-draftable by most, if not all teams.

Yet Grigson takes him in the 4th rd. Holy shit, I'm so glad that Grigson is gone.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by Puck

So who are your starting CB's? I showed who will start at LB

The Lbers have been addressed in FA the corners have not at all

Quality, not quantity. Vontae Davis is the best player the Colts have on defense. LB is manned entirely with average or worse starters. That's why LB is higher priority even now. I'd spend a 3 on CB, but nothing higher.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by YDFL Commish

Is this really an accurate number? 5.10 is crazy slow. For an ILB that is considered un-draftable by most, if not all teams.

Yet Grigson takes him in the 4th rd. Holy shit, I'm so glad that Grigson is gone.

40 times don't matter, idiot.

JMO
Omahacolt

[rcubed]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

40 times don't matter, idiot.

JMO
Omahacolt

For LB, I like to see short area quickness over top 40 yd speed. 10-15 yards.