2017 Draft Thread

[Puck]

Originally Posted by Coltsalr

I'm well aware of the state of our CB'a.

Our pass rush and overall talent at LB is more dire.

Ok. I have. Simon and Sheard on the outside. Morrison and Spence on the inside. With Mingo Ayres as backups on the outside and Jackson as a backup on the inside


Who do you have as corners???

Who do you have playing RG?

[Puck]

Man I hope this is true

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Ballard was also very adamant that he will not be suckered into erring toward need in the draft. He said he's learned hard lessons abt that

[VeveJones007]

Originally Posted by Puck

Ok. I have. Simon and Sheard on the outside. Morrison and Spence on the inside. With Mingo Ayres as backups on the outside and Jackson as a backup on the inside


Who do you have as corners???

Who do you have playing RG?

That LB corps still is average at best.

[VeveJones007]

Originally Posted by sherck

Like Veve said, this is a DEEP draft class for defensive talent.

This is not a deep class for QB, O-Line, or to a lesser extent WR.

If you are defensive set team but need offensive firepower, O-Line or receivers, then trading up to grab "the one" makes sense. Honestly, HOU is a QB away from contending.

If desired, we could find trade partners.

BTW, holy crud, I just saw mock draft by a national pundit that had Hassan Riddick going #5 overall. They are that in love with his combine performance and versatility to play ILB on 1st/2nd downs and OLB/Pass Rush on 3rd down.

Crazy.

Cheers,

Beasley and Fowler had similar rises up draft boards. I don't think it's unreasonable.

[VeveJones007]

Originally Posted by Coltsalr

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Jarrad Davis is a name that I LOVE and I know I've been vocal about it.

He's been a guy I've been hoping might fall to us in the 2nd round, but with him throwing down a 4.56 40, I'm wondering if he might now be a late 1st rounder. If that's the case, then I'm okay with trading back in the 1st round to grab him then and hopefully getting some more value elsewhere to cover it up (including perhaps an early 2nd to hopefully grab an edge rusher).

Jarrad Davis replaced Antonio Morrison this past year. I'd love to see him have the opportunity to do so again. Morrison, speaking of, ran 5.1 40 last year at his Pro Day for comparison sake. An ILB running a 4.56 40 is incomprehensibly fast for us Colts fans. We simply NEED speed at that position and Jarrad Davis would provide it.

Teez Tabor is a name that's gotten some mention as being a 1st round pick, but with him running a 4.7 40, in addition to the off-the-field concerns, I don't see it anymore. He'd be fine as a 3rd rounder though, and he has a profile that just screams "DRAFT DAY FALL". How far he'll fall is anyone's guess.

I also like Marcus Maye from Florida, who apparently had a nice day today too. He'd probably be a very nice 4th round guy.

They definitely need more sideline to sideline and coverage speed from ILB. I don't know if Davis is the right guy, but I like the idea of trying to address those needs.

[Puck]

Originally Posted by VeveJones007

That LB corps still is average at best.

It's still more stable than the CB corps

[Coltsalr]

Originally Posted by Puck

Ok. I have. Simon and Sheard on the outside. Morrison and Spence on the inside. With Mingo Ayres as backups on the outside and Jackson as a backup on the inside


Who do you have as corners???

Who do you have playing RG?

Yes, that's still a woefully undermanned LB corps. Combine that with LB being more essential to the defense in that it handles all phases and that's why it's ther more dire need.

The CB group isn't great shakes, I don't disagree, but the position itself and with Butler potentially able to compensate a bit, it's not as dire. There's no one bailing out our LB's. Fix that first.

[Puck]

Originally Posted by Coltsalr

Yes, that's still a woefully undermanned LB corps. Combine that with LB being more essential to the defense in that it handles all phases and that's why it's ther more dire need.

The CB group isn't great shakes, I don't disagree, but the position itself and with Butler potentially able to compensate a bit, it's not as dire. There's no one bailing out our LB's. Fix that first.

I completely disagree

[Coltsalr]

Originally Posted by VeveJones007

They definitely need more sideline to sideline and coverage speed from ILB. I don't know if Davis is the right guy, but I like the idea of trying to address those needs.

I'm not the biggest Raekwon McMillian fan, but he did run a 4.61 40.

Hassan Reddick ran a 4.52. I know Reddick might not be a pure ILB, but he also wouldn't be a pure pass rusher and he'd be able to use his speed in coverage.

Antonio Morrison ran a 5.10 last year and I doubt if oldass DQ Jackson could get under 6. I'm not sure if people (not you) realize how drastically Under-athletic we are at that position and how much adding a guy with speed would do for us.

[Puck]

Right now at CB we have Davis Melvin and Duke Williams Mathias Farley or . Tevin Mitchel. AND Davis is in a contract yr. I think this is the worst group on the team now