Greatness, or Disaster ??? The Chargers Game Could Send the Colts in Either Direction

[Colts And Orioles]

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc

This team will fold. They had to win the game today, and they didn’t.

I REALLY hope I’m wrong, but I’m afraid I’m not.

o


You may be correct.

They also had to win the game against the Falcons to avoid going into the bye-week on a 2-game losing streak, and they won that one. And the critics said that they had to beat the Chargers to prove that they weren't paper tigers, and they did.

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[Oldcolt]

This season is over. You need someone who can actually pull you through the doldrums, pick you and the team up. Has to be the QB. Jones is and always has been totally incapable of elevating either his play or the play of anyone around him. You can win with a dude like this at the helm but you have to have your shit together in every other way to do it. We lack in game coaching and don't have a true pass rusher. Jones is exactly who some of us thought he was before he feasted on crap teams and fooled most of us. We will sign him long term and be on the tier below really good teams for the foreseeable future most likely. Frees up Sunday afternoons so that's good.

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I think that the truth of the current state of the Colts lies somewhere in between Kray's apologetic defense of the team and the posters whom are asserting that the Colts won't win another game and/or will stumble into the playoffs with a 10-7 record ...... and I think that it's closer to Kray's assessment, my debate with him about the missed extra-point aside.

Earlier in the season, the Colts were not just taking care of business against bad teams, they were hammering them ...... 33-8 over the Raiders, 41-20 over the Titans, 38-14 over the Titans ...... it was the antithesis of most of the recent Colts teams that almost always played down to the level of their competition and either barely beat said bad teams or lost to them. It was a piece of evidence which displayed that this Colts team (and the quarterback leading them on offense) was not the same as the mediocre/middling Colts teams of the recent past.

After their 8-2 start to the season, the Colts' schedule has gotten much harder, yet they were still right in the game until the end with an otherwise mobile quarterback that had a broken leg ...... imagine how effective Fran Tarkenton, Michael Vick, or Randall Cunningham would have been had they ever had to play with a broken fibula.

I believe that the people whom are presuming that the Colts will necessarily lose their next 2 games are not being objective about the reality of the situation. The Colts may lose their next 2 games, but their opponents are good teams, they are not the 1978 Pittsburgh Steelers, the 1989 San Francisco 49ers, or the 1967 Baltimore Colts ...... there is just as good a chance that the Colts will win those game that they will lose them.

Of the 5 remaining games, the Colts could conceivably go anywhere from 0-5 to 5-0 ...... the difference is that I would be very surprised if they went 0-5, but I would not be surprised if they went 5-0, or 4-1. I believe that that is a more objective take than Kray's take or the doom-and-gloom posters' take. Those 5 remaining games are all contests between evenly-matched teams in which the line for the favorite will not be more than 3 or 4 points. The opening line for the Colts-Jaguars game has the Colts favored by 2.5 points. The line may vary as the week progresses, but it certainly won't swing all the way to the Colts being a prohibitive underdog by more than 7 points.

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[Racehorse]

Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles

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I think that the truth of the current state of the Colts lies somewhere in between Kray's apologetic defense of the team and the posters whom are asserting that the Colts won't win another game and/or will stumble into the playoffs with a 10-7 record ...... and I think that it's closer to Kray's assessment, my debate with him about the missed extra-point aside.

Earlier in the season, the Colts were not just taking care of business against bad teams, they were hammering them ...... 33-8 over the Raiders, 41-20 over the Titans, 38-14 over the Titans ...... it was the antithesis of most of the recent Colts teams that almost always played down to the level of their competition and either barely bad said bad teams or lost to them. It was a piece of evidence which displayed that this Colts team (and the quarterback leading them on offense) was not the same as the mediocre/middling Colts teams of the recent past.

After their 8-2 start to the season, the Colts' schedule has gotten much harder, yet they were still right in the game until the end with an otherwise mobile quarterback that had a broken leg ...... imagine how effective Fran Tarkenton, Michael Vick, or Randall Cunningham would have been had they ever had to play with a broken fibula.

I believe that the people whom are presuming that the Colts will necessarily lose their next 2 games are not being objective about the reality of the situation. The Colts may lose their next 2 games, but their opponents are good teams, they are not the 1978 Pittsburgh Steelers, the 1989 San Francisco 49ers, or the 1967 Baltimore Colts ...... there is just as good a chance that the Colts will win those game that they will lose them.

Of the 5 remaining games, the Colts could conceivably go anywhere from 0-5 to 5-0 ...... the difference is that I would be very surprised if they went 0-5, but I would not be surprised if they went 5-0, or 4-1. I believe that that is a more objective take than Kray's take or the doom-and-gloom posters' take. Those 5 remaining games are all contests between evenly-matched teams in which the line for the favorite will not be more than 3 or 4 points. The opening line for the Colts-Jaguars game has the Colts favored by 2.5 points. The line may vary as the week progresses, but it certainly won't swing all the way to the Colts being a prohibitive underdog by more than 7 points.

o

I think we win 3 of the 5. We will either split or sweep the Jags games, and beat SF and possibly HOU at HOU. I doubt we beat SEA with a quarterback with limited mobility. Maybe AR can return to spell Jones in short yardage situations.

[YDFL Commish]

Winning the last 3 division games would be the best result.

[Hoopsdoc]

Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles

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I think that the truth of the current state of the Colts lies somewhere in between Kray's apologetic defense of the team and the posters whom are asserting that the Colts won't win another game and/or will stumble into the playoffs with a 10-7 record ...... and I think that it's closer to Kray's assessment, my debate with him about the missed extra-point aside.

Earlier in the season, the Colts were not just taking care of business against bad teams, they were hammering them ...... 33-8 over the Raiders, 41-20 over the Titans, 38-14 over the Titans ...... it was the antithesis of most of the recent Colts teams that almost always played down to the level of their competition and either barely beat said bad teams or lost to them. It was a piece of evidence which displayed that this Colts team (and the quarterback leading them on offense) was not the same as the mediocre/middling Colts teams of the recent past.

After their 8-2 start to the season, the Colts' schedule has gotten much harder, yet they were still right in the game until the end with an otherwise mobile quarterback that had a broken leg ...... imagine how effective Fran Tarkenton, Michael Vick, or Randall Cunningham would have been had they ever had to play with a broken fibula.

I believe that the people whom are presuming that the Colts will necessarily lose their next 2 games are not being objective about the reality of the situation. The Colts may lose their next 2 games, but their opponents are good teams, they are not the 1978 Pittsburgh Steelers, the 1989 San Francisco 49ers, or the 1967 Baltimore Colts ...... there is just as good a chance that the Colts will win those game that they will lose them.

Of the 5 remaining games, the Colts could conceivably go anywhere from 0-5 to 5-0 ...... the difference is that I would be very surprised if they went 0-5, but I would not be surprised if they went 5-0, or 4-1. I believe that that is a more objective take than Kray's take or the doom-and-gloom posters' take. Those 5 remaining games are all contests between evenly-matched teams in which the line for the favorite will not be more than 3 or 4 points. The opening line for the Colts-Jaguars game has the Colts favored by 2.5 points. The line may vary as the week progresses, but it certainly won't swing all the way to the Colts being a prohibitive underdog by more than 7 points.

o

I admire your optimism but I think it’s MUCH more likely they go 1-4 or 0-5 than the reverse.

But, as they say, that’s why you play the games.

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(DECEMBER 7th)


Daniel Jones may be out for the season.

The Colts' remaining schedule is very tough, and has been since the Chiefs game right after the bye.

The team is in trouble ...... there is still time to respond, but they are out of affordable losses.

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What the Colts’ Historic Collapse Could Mean for Their Future

(By Stephen Holder)

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...-chris-ballard

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[apballin]

Looking back in hindsight I’d say once again it was the evil bumblebee wearing Steelers that sent our season off the rails

[Colts And Orioles]

Originally Posted by apballin

Looking back in hindsight, I’d say once again it was the evil bumblebee wearing Steelers that sent our season off the rails.

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The only thing evil about the Colts' loss to the Steeles was the 6 turnovers that they committed in that game.

After that, fate would have it that the Colts' first clutch QB since Philip Rivers in the 2020 season broke his fibula in the loss to the Chiefs, and the rest is Colts disaster history.


I firmly believe that this Colts team/franchise is much closer to the team that started the season at 8-2 prior to Jones breaking his fibula than the team that went 0-6 after that ...... as has become custom to Colts fans, we'll be pining for next year in similar fashion of which Brooklyn Dodgers fans did so many times before finally winning the world championship in 1955 ...... the main difference is that the Dodgers were always bonafide contenders and National League champions many times who were waiting to win the world championship, while Colts fans are waiting for their mediocre team(s) to evolve into a bona-fide contender and a possible candidate for an AFC championship.

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