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Old 09-09-2024, 08:12 PM
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A) ) First of all, it would depend on what the scores were. 6 FG's ceded is a lot different than 6 TD's ceded. In this case of today's game, is was a mix of both (3 FG's, and 3 TD's.)

B) ) I would not use that stat solely to be based the overall defense's performance. For example, I stated specifically why I thought the the defense was lucky because of the Texans' clock mismanagement on the final drive of the first half, and why l thought that they were unlucky on the final drive of the game.

C) ) It would also depend on how many times the team's offense put the defense in a bad position to begin with ...... and today that only happened once, when the Colts' offense gave the ball to the Texans near midfield when they turned the ball over on downs on the opening drive of the game. And that drive ended with a field goal. Giving up a field goal when the other team starts the drive near midfield is not great, but it's also not horrible. If I recall correctly, we did this dance last year when you refused to budge after a game in which the Colts' offense put the defense in numerous bad situations, and you stubbornly put all of the blame on the defense for giving up points for drives that started deep in their own territory. You referenced Mike Curtis and the old Colts teams from the 1967, 1968, and 1971 seasons who set records for the least amount of points ceded in a 14-game season as a comparison, and said something along the lines of "good defenses don't give up points, no matter what" ...... and it appears that you are trying to do this again by narrowing down the criteria of a defense's performance to a single fact/statistic. If you want to do that fine, but anybody who is trying to use some objectivity takes into account all of the factors that occur during a game when judging a defense. I believe that the defense was mediocre today, and I partially explained why in my OP. Thorgrim, Omaha, and Hoopsdoc all thought that the defense was flat-out bad, and Racehorse leaned more towards my view. I think that an argument can be made for both (mediocre, and bad.)

Also, I never said that I was OK with mediocrity in the first place.....I'm not. Mediocrity will generally lead to an overall record of somewhere between 6-11 and 9-8, and I'm not OK with that. Today's game could have been won with a better performance by the Colts' defense, and it also could have been won with better run-blocking from the Colts' offensive line.

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I appreciate your view. Also, I'm not insinuating that you are saying this, but I do not ever want to hear TOP as an excuse for poor defense. The defenses job, and especially the DC is to get off the fucking field ASAP and then there is no argument for a TOP discussion. Three and outs solve a lot of problems. How many of those did we have yesterday? Could not have been many, since the Texicans only punted once and had zero turnovers.

I understand there is such a thing as situational football and there are times that allowing the opponent to use long time consuming drives is a benefit. But, does Bradley understand how this works? I don't think so. If the defense suddenly is in a TOP deficit then IMO it's better to take some chances and get them off the field quickly, rather than let them die a slow death that they will never be able to fight back from.
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(vs. PACKERS, 9/15)



Possessions: lllllllllllll, 10

Punts: llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll 3 l

Fumbles: lllllllllllllllllllllllllllt 1

Clock Ran Out: llllllll,) 1

Missed FG's: lllllllllllllllll 1

TD's: llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllt 1

FG's: llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllt 3 ) (1 Off of a Turnover on Downs)

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(vs. PACKERS, 9/15)



Possessions: lllllllllllll, 10

Punts: llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll 3 l

Fumbles: lllllllllllllllllllllllllllt 1

Clock Ran Out: llllllll,) 1

Missed FG's: lllllllllllllllll 1

TD's: llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllt 1

FG's: llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllt 3 ) (1 Off of a Turnover on Downs)

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In my worthless opinion, the results were much better than the defense's actual play ...... I thought that the Colts' defense was horrible in the 1st half, and decent in the 2nd half.

5 stops in 10 possessions and 16 points ceded sounds good, but I believe that it's misleading for anyone who didn't actually watch the game.

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When I read the title to this "The Colts' Defense 2024 Season -

I expected to open the thread and find absolutely no posts whatsoever.
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Colts have allowed 474 yards rushing through two games. Thats 75 yards more than the next worst team, the Carolina Panthers.

Thats with guys like Buckner, Stewart, Franklin, and Moore getting huge contracts.

It’s sickening.
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(vs. STEELERS, 9/29)



Possessions: lllllllllllllllllllllllll, 11

Punts: lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll)))) 3 l

Fumble: lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll 2

Turnover on Downs: llllllll,, 2

TD: llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll ll) 3

FG: llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llll 1

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(vs. JAGUARS, 10/06)


I missed almost the entire game. I only saw the 2 late TD bombs which turned a 34-20 deficit into a 34-34 tie, and the 3-and-out that the Colts' defense got in between ...... the 2nd-half numbers don't look good.


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Possessions: llllllllllllllllllllllll) 12

Punts: lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll))tt 2 l

INT: llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll)) 1

Fumble: llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll,, 1

Turnover on Downs: llllllll., 1

TD: llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llt 4

FG: llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llt 3

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Well, the Jets just canned Robert Saleh. He had a pretty damn good defense in San Francisco before becoming NY's head coach.

I don't suppose the Colts will dump Gus and grab Saleh?
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(vs. TITANS, 10/13)


In the first half, all 10 points that the Titans scored were aided by the Colts' offense (an INT deep in their own territory), and the referees (a phantom illegal hands call on 3rd down, which would have forced a punt.)

On the Titan's first drive of the 2nd half, the Colts' defense was absolutely disgraceful by giving up a TD on a draw play on 3rd-and-19 from the Colt's 24-yardline.


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Possessions: llllllllllllllllllllllllll 10

Punts: lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll 5

INT: llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll),,lll 1

Clock Ran Out: llllllllllllllllllllll 1

TD: llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llt 2 ) (1 off of an INT, deep in Colts territory)

FG: llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llt 1

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Did you even watch the first 25 minutes, dude ???


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No, I didn't. I turned the game on at halftime.

I only saw that the Jets didn't get a 1st down until there was 1:30 left in the 2nd quarter, that the Jets had punted 4 times and turned the ball over on downs in a 5th possession, and finally scored a TD on their 6th possession.

I presumed that 5 stops in 5 possessions and holding the Jets to 0 first downs for almost the entire half was because of excellent defense on the Colts' part, but I guess I was wrong.

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