My Take

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by omahacolt

ngakoue was a huge trade and dayo was a 2nd round pick. guys hurt don't help

he failed

Because Rock Ya-Sin was such a difference maker? DE is clearly Ballard's weak position. He should address it in free agency because that's where he's done his best work at the position (Houston, Autry).

[ChaosTheory]

Ballard definitely missed enough on DE. Paye is a monster against the run and improved at pass-rush but still not great. Although it's only (an injury-hampered) year-2 and his potential was a big part of his draft position.

FA might be necessary for pass-rush due to the rarity. Like Buckner, dump the capitol for a known commodity. We rank low in sacks and more importantly turnovers/interceptions. We don't get home enough to produce strips and we don't even scare the QB enough to rush and make errant throws.

[omahacolt]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

Because Rock Ya-Sin was such a difference maker? DE is clearly Ballard's weak position. He should address it in free agency because that's where he's done his best work at the position (Houston, Autry).

would rather have ya-sin than ngakoue

[Hoopsdoc]

Easily the most satisfying win so far this season because of Mcdouche but I’d agree it’s way to early to get excited. For starters, the Raiders are one of the few teams actually more dysfunctional than we are.

Also, they had literally no idea what Frazier was gonna do as a play caller. That’s a huge advantage which will go away as we move forward and his tendencies show up.

The OLine was a pleasant surprise but the raiders are somehow atrocious at rushing the passer despite having Crosby and Jones so it’s hard to say if the line was better or the Raiders were just bad. We’ll find out in a hurry next week. I suspect it’s the latter.

I like Fries though. The dude plays with an attitude.

JT is clearly still not fully healthy. They almost caught him on the long td which was surprising to me. A healthy JT runs that in 5 yards ahead.

Franklin is really starting to grow on me. He’s got a lot of heart out there.

I thought Moore had a really up and down day.

Ryan was never the problem and shouldn’t have been benched.

It was not surprising to see that Ya Sin still sucks.

Very satisfied with the win.

[ChaosTheory]

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc

I like Fries though. The dude plays with an attitude.

He was really pissing off #50 for the Raiders.

[ColtBlue]

Originally Posted by omahacolt

ngakoue was a huge trade and dayo was a 2nd round pick. guys hurt don't help

he failed

This is something I want to post on. I see a lot of Colt fans saying OMG Colts OL looks so much better. Are you kidding me? Raiders D had one pass rusher Crosby. They had their LB's out if one got hurt in the game they would have had to play a OL guy on Defense. May have helped them actually.

Lets see what happens when Colts go against Eagles, yes same old junk OL and Matty Ice freezes like a deer in the headlights.. Watch and see.

This is all true cause where was Yannick Ngakoue and Paye or Dayo?? Colt players on rush? Maybe hurt, Okay understandable not where it is on the DEPTH chart Ballard???? Same is your OL??

Hell Raiders had one whole player worth a shit on defense named Crosby and he about beat this team all by himself. Only smart move was Colts put Gilmore on Adams at the end of game when he was burning Moore majority of the time.

JMO of what I seen...

[IndyNorm]

Originally Posted by omahacolt

ballard is a build the lines guy



the oline sucks and there is still, after many tries, no pass rush.


dayo is terrible and ngakoue is worse than terrible

ballard has failed

If the OL plays this well or better from here on out I think we can chalk their shit show first half of the season up to coaching. Fingers crossed that that's actually the case.

Agree on the DL. Dayo definitely sucks and Ngakoue is a disappointment to say the least. Seems like he does well as the complimentary DE, but he's definitely not good enough to be the main pass rusher.

[IndyNorm]

Originally Posted by Lov2fish

Starters, don't get to worked up. It was the Raiders, who are just as dysfunctional as we are/were.

Saturday done a pretty good job, and the kid called a good game. Both of them are really the rallying point this team needed. Jeff didn't sale these players a bunch of BS, he was 100% straight with them as men. They responded for him

Offensive line was good today. Not great, but damn what a game after watching them matador their way through the season up to this point. Sustainable? Who knows but today was definitely a fresh of breath air.

Matt Ryan: Dude can still play when allowed the time to go through progressions. The sack that costed us field position was inexcusable for a veteran, but I imagine he was feeling a little frisky and trying extra hard. I still draft a QB if one falls to us, or we move up.

Still have to get our Tight ends involved. Completely ignoring them is not going to bold well moving forward. Get Pierce more involved. The kid can play.

Campbell is playing his way to another contract. He is getting better as the season goes on and I am questioning the pick less and less.

Moore flashed some old Moore today, but still would ditch him after the season. Would also still ditch Facyson sooner than later. He is just lost in coverage most plays.

Rogers is a football player. Get that man on the field more.

Pass rush is still mind boggling bad. Paye goes down and what little we had completely disappeared. We need more blitzes in certain situations.

Special teams were not very good today, but they are usually adequate. Hope this is not a trend.

Now onto the Eggles for a beatdown to bring us all back down to earth.

Another positive for me today was getting blocked by Mike Wells on Twitter. That dude is a fucking huge douche! Does not like being called out for bullshit speculation.

This made all of the difference in the game. As I said in the game thread: not sure if Saturday lit a fire under their asses or what but easily the best the OL has performed this year except for maybe the 2nd Jagoffs game (which I didn't get to watch). They opened holes for the RBs and for the most part gave Ryan time to step up and throw (only 1 sack allowed). I could hardly believe my eyes when we were running it for first downs on 3rd and shorts and making it easy like back in the good old days of just last year.........

[ChaosTheory]

Originally Posted by IndyNorm

This made all of the difference in the game. As I said in the game thread: not sure if Saturday lit a fire under their asses or what but easily the best the OL has performed this year except for maybe the 2nd Jagoffs game (which I didn't get to watch). They opened holes for the RBs and for the most part gave Ryan time to step up and throw (only 1 sack allowed). I could hardly believe my eyes when we were running it for first downs on 3rd and shorts and making it easy like back in the good old days of just last year.........

Today was better because we ran the ball. Against JAX, 58 throws without a sack was great. And a lot of throws acted as run plays. But even though we only ran it 16 times, we were only getting 2.8ypc.

Today, we had 207yds. Take away Ryan's yards (holy shit, btw) and our RB's ran for 169yds on 29 carries, 6.5ypc. Just for shits and to show the consistency... take away JT's homerun and our RB's still rushed for 103yds on 25 carries, 4.1ypc. Even that is way better than what we were getting.

And I don't even think JT is right yet. The huge grain of salt with everything is... this was against a 2-win Raiders team.

[IndyNorm]

Originally Posted by ChaosTheory

Today was better because we ran the ball. Against JAX, 58 throws without a sack was great. And a lot of throws acted as run plays. But even though we only ran it 16 times, we were only getting 2.8ypc.

Today, we had 207yds. Take away Ryan's yards (holy shit, btw) and our RB's ran for 169yds on 29 carries, 6.5ypc. Just for shits and to show the consistency... take away JT's homerun and our RB's still rushed for 103yds on 25 carries, 4.1ypc. Even that is way better than what we were getting.

And I don't even think JT is right yet. The huge grain of salt with everything is... this was against a 2-win Raiders team.

Exactly. Where the fuck has this effort from the OL been all year? We'll see if it is, but hopefully it's not just that Vegas' DL is super terrible.

Agree on JT. A couple of times he got stuffed cutting it up inside but if he had kept running outside it would have been a big gain. Also, Ryan's big sack IMO was still him thinking he needs to play hero ball. Hopefully the OL holds up and he can get that mentality out of his head.