2017 Draft Thread

[natagu23]

Originally Posted by njcoltfan

There's no way in hell that I would trade with the Texans so they could possibly move up to get their " Franchise " QB. They already have the best defense in the division, I don't ever want them to get even a competent QB, let alone a " Franchise" one.

No GM would make that trade....not even sorry ass Grigson.

[sherck]

Why is Grigson gone?

Colts draftee still on team:

2012: 2 still on team
QB-Andrew Luck (1-1)
WR-T.Y. Hilton (3-92)

2013: 0 still on team

2014: 2 still on team
OG-Jack Mewhort (2-59)
WR-Donte Moncrief (3-90)

Out of 21 draft selection spots (7 awarded per season); Grigson managed to find only 4 guys that are still on the team 6, 5 or 4 seasons later (assuming those guys make the 2017 roster! ).

Granted, you could bump that up to five if you include Vontae Davis since we directly traded a draft pick to get him but....

My guess is that number needs to be more like 10 or 12 out of 21 to be a top flight team/GM. Many of your 5th/6th/7th round picks should not probably stick for more than their rookie contract (if that long) but your lower round picks should still be on the team at the end of their rookie contracts.

Anyway, that is dreadful.

How much better would our roster situation be if these guys had turned into at least NFL solid?

OLB Bjoern Werner (1st round 2013)
OG Hugh Thornton (3rd round 2013)
OC Khaled Holmes (4th round 2013)
RB Trent Richardson (1st round 2014)
1st round 2015 spent on a position other than OC (since Holmes worked out)

That is 4 spots that the Colts need to fill right now (Right OG, OLB[RUSH], RB, Whatever we took with 1st round 2015) that we could be looking at other positions if Grigson had just picked better guys (or Pagano developed talent better).

Anyway, I am glad Grigson is gone.

Bonus question. Who are the Colts draftees still on the team that were drafted prior to the Grigson era in Indy? Don't cheat!

Cheers,

[Wyatt]

Castonzo?
Overton maybe?

[sherck]

Originally Posted by Wyatt

Castonzo?
Overton maybe?

Castonzo (1st round 2011) is indeed the ONLY Colt draftee still on the team from before the Luck era started.

So, from 2011 (2017 = 7th year in league), 2012 (2017 = 6th year in league), 2013 (2017 = 5th year in league) and 2014 (2017 = 4th year in league), we have five whole draftees still on the roster. FIVE. Out of 27 total picks (13 of them in the first 4 rounds).

Years 4-9 are like the HEART of a player's career. Old enough to have learned the NFL game, young enough to have a body that can play it. We have five guys....

Grigson sucked as a draft manager.

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With both Robert Mathis and Joe Reitz retiring, the only other Colt on the roster that was on the 2011 team or prior is Adam Vinieteri. Two guys from the "pre-Luck" era.

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With the 2017 "old man" roster purge by Ballard, the Colts have (age in parentheses) :

22 seasons experience = Adam Vinatieri (44)
13 seasons experience = Frank Gore (33)
10 seasons experience = Kendall Langford (31)
09 seasons experience = Vontae Davis (28), Darius Butler (31)
08 seasons experience = Al Woods (30)
07 seasons experience = Akeem Ayers (27), Anthony Castonzo (28), Jabaal Sheard (27), Scott Tolzien (29)
06 seasons experience = T.Y. Hilton (27), Andrew Luck (27), Matt Overton (31), Sean Spence (26), Robert Turbin (27)

Only six players 30 years or older of which 2 are special teams (Adam V and Overton), two are D-Line (Langford, Woods) and Gore and Butler.

We are a young team but the lack of lots of more draftees at the 7/6/5 years of service area really hurts.

Cheers,

[Coltsalr]

Tyler Brooke @TylerDBrooke 12m12 minutes ago
Hearing that the Colts are considering trading up into the Top 10. Apparently they're thinking long and hard about Christian McCaffrey.

FOR FUCK'S SAKE BALLARD NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[sherck]

Originally Posted by Coltsalr

Tyler Brooke @TylerDBrooke 12m12 minutes ago
Hearing that the Colts are considering trading up into the Top 10. Apparently they're thinking long and hard about Christian McCaffrey.

FOR FUCK'S SAKE BALLARD NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

That would be completely against everything that Ballard has said up to this point.

Deep draft for defense. Build from the trenches back. Want more draft picks, not less.

I don't believe it for a moment.

Cheers,

[rcubed]

Originally Posted by Coltsalr

Tyler Brooke @TylerDBrooke 12m12 minutes ago
Hearing that the Colts are considering trading up into the Top 10. Apparently they're thinking long and hard about Christian McCaffrey.

FOR FUCK'S SAKE BALLARD NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

this board (led by a certain individual) would explode!!

[HoosierinFL]

Originally Posted by Coltsalr

Tyler Brooke @TylerDBrooke 12m12 minutes ago
Hearing that the Colts are considering trading up into the Top 10. Apparently they're thinking long and hard about Christian McCaffrey.

FOR FUCK'S SAKE BALLARD NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Apparently the trade-up rumor could involve either McCaffrey or Solomon Thomas.

[Spike]

Originally Posted by Coltsalr

Tyler Brooke @TylerDBrooke 12m12 minutes ago
Hearing that the Colts are considering trading up into the Top 10. Apparently they're thinking long and hard about Christian McCaffrey.

FOR FUCK'S SAKE BALLARD NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Like I said in the other thread, this is bullshit. Even if Ballard was contemplating this, he wouldn't leak it out. He better not be contemplating it though, it would be a dumb ass move. Don't want McCaffrey even at 15. Damn, can the draft get here already, tired of all the rumors.

[YDFL Commish]

Bonus question. Who are the Colts draftees still on the team that were drafted prior to the Grigson era in Indy? Don't cheat!

Castonzo has to be the only one, with McAfee now gone.