2017 Draft Thread

[Spike]

Originally Posted by VeveJones007

Pure hypothetical here, which do you choose at 1.15?

1) 22 year old Robert Mathis
2) 22 year old Jeff Saturday

Mathis, but I am not sure you get a Mathis at 15 in this years draft. Therefore I am of the opinion that you protect Luck with the safest pick in the draft with Lamp.

[natagu23]

Originally Posted by VeveJones007

What if Ballard thinks there is? It's a simple floor/ceiling argument. Frankly, a Saturday stabilizes the OL, but doesn't really move the needle on proximity to a title. After all those years with PM, I don't care about AFC South banners. Swing for the fences and assemble a champion.

I'll give you that its virtually impossible to know if guys like Harris, Taco Charlton, Carl Lawson, Tim Williams or Takk could develop into solid pass rushers.

The point that im trying to make is that all those guys are late 1st to 2nd round picks. We're talking about a huge reach to grab one of those guys.

Again, we don't know where Ballard and his team has those guys....true. But there seems to be a consensus that after Solomon Thomas and Garrett the pass-rushing talent falls off a f**king cliff where Derek Barnett is somewhere in-between the cream of the crop and the 2nd tier.

The only defensive non-cornerback I would be ok drafting at 1.15 is Riddick and Foster. Foster is very concerning now because we all know the league hands out drug related suspensions like candy.

I've narrowed it down to...

1. Riddick
2. Foster
3. Ryan Ramczyk/Lamp
4. Marlon Humphrey
5. Conley

[VeveJones007]

Originally Posted by natagu23

I'll give you that its virtually impossible to know if guys like Harris, Taco Charlton, Carl Lawson, Tim Williams or Takk could develop into solid pass rushers.

The point that im trying to make is that all those guys are late 1st to 2nd round picks. We're talking about a huge reach to grab one of those guys.

Again, we don't know where Ballard and his team has those guys....true. But there seems to be a consensus that after Solomon Thomas and Garrett the pass-rushing talent falls off a f**king cliff where Derek Barnett is somewhere in-between the cream of the crop and the 2nd tier.

The only defensive non-cornerback I would be ok drafting at 1.15 is Riddick and Foster. Foster is very concerning now because we all know the league hands out drug related suspensions like candy.

I've narrowed it down to...

1. Riddick
2. Foster
3. Ryan Ramczyk/Lamp
4. Marlon Humphrey
5. Conley

Do you really think Ram/Lamp are better than late 1st/early 2nd grades on those EDGE guys? I don't.

[VeveJones007]

BTW, I definitely take one of Foster, Riddick, Harris, or Takk before I take one of those OL. Absolutely should trade down unless Ballard is comfortable with Foster's interviews, though.

[natagu23]

Originally Posted by VeveJones007

Do you really think Ram/Lamp are better than late 1st/early 2nd grades on those EDGE guys? I don't.

Lamp?

AbsoFuckinglutely. Are you kidding me? You might be getting caught up in the dynamic play ability of edge rushers vs. olinemen.

This is a 4 year starter at WKU where most of starts were almost exclusively at LT. Again, you put on the LSU tape and the Alabama tape, no question.

He'll most likely play guard in the NFL, but he has LT tackle experience playing against some elite programs and performing well.

You literally can plug him in at any spot along the oline, and he's an after-thought.... in a good way. Plug him and forget him.

You replace his school name from WKU to Stanferdz, he'd be a legit top 10 pick.

[natagu23]

Imagine we pick up Lamp in the 1st and T.J. Watt in the 2nd?

Congratz, we just won the draft.

There are just more moves you can make in the 2nd than you can in the 1st.

[natagu23]

Stanzo-Mewtwo-Kelly-Lamp-Clark

That's a pretty decent oline on paper.

Most of your liability concerns would be with Clark and whether he makes the jump from his rookie season.

You can interchange the name Clark with Haeg...which ever you prefer.

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by VeveJones007

Ugh, Foster got hit with a diluted urine sample at the combine, so he's now in the system. Given his other character question marks and Ballard's comments on Wednesday, you have to think he'll be off their board at 15. I hope not, but I'm taking Ballard at his word that character is an important factor for him.

I wouldn't be so quick. Teams really love him and some see him as a Ray Lewis type. I was thinking he would go top 5. Now I don't see him getting out of the the 1st. Diluted sample means he just drank a lot of water, which a lot of players do before the combine to gain a little extra weight.

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by VeveJones007

Pure hypothetical here, which do you choose at 1.15?

1) 22 year old Robert Mathis
2) 22 year old Jeff Saturday

Pass rusher, always pass rusher.

You have to think about the impact on the game the player will have and the best athletes go in the first.

[Spike]

Originally Posted by VeveJones007

BTW, I definitely take one of Foster, Riddick, Harris, or Takk before I take one of those OL. Absolutely should trade down unless Ballard is comfortable with Foster's interviews, though.

I guess I am just sick & tired of watching Luck get the shit knocked out of him. Our franchise QB is in a sling right now, don't you think protecting him is our most pressing need right now?