2017 Draft Thread

[sherck]

So, if your choice was to:

A) Stand pat at 1-15 and pick from one of: Derek Barnett, Hasson Riddick or Takkarist McKinley.

B) Or trade down into the 20s to pick up an additional mid-round selections and pick from one of: Charles Harris, T.J. Watt, Taco Charleston.

Which scenario do you prefer?

I guess my real scenario is; there appears to be an "elite" grouping of front-7 defenders that includes: Myles Garrett, Solomon Thomas, Jonathan Allen and Reuben Foster. Those guys are almost always picked by just about everyone in or near the top ten.

Then? Lots of diverging opinions.

Is Hasson Riddick a middle of the 1st round pick or a bottom of the 1st round pick?
Is Derek Barnett a middle of the 1st round pick or a bottom of the 1st round pick?
Is Takkarist McKinley a middle of the 1st round pick or a bottom of the 1st round pick?
Is Taco Charleston a middle of the 1st round pick or a bottom of the 1st round pick?

T.J. Watt? Charles Harris? Both seem to be a bottom of the 1st round or top of the 2nd round picks.

Do you like Riddick, Barnett, McKinley or Charleston better than Watt or Harris?

I love the idea of moving down if possible to fill more holes and I just don't know if I see a lot of difference between those guys once you get past the "elite" bunch.

Does anyone else?

Cheers,

[YDFL Commish]

Pray there's a trade partner out there, and trade down.

[Coltsalr]

Originally Posted by sherck

So, if your choice was to:

A) Stand pat at 1-15 and pick from one of: Derek Barnett, Hasson Riddick or Takkarist McKinley.

B) Or trade down into the 20s to pick up an additional mid-round selections and pick from one of: Charles Harris, T.J. Watt, Taco Charleston.

Which scenario do you prefer?

I guess my real scenario is; there appears to be an "elite" grouping of front-7 defenders that includes: Myles Garrett, Solomon Thomas, Jonathan Allen and Reuben Foster. Those guys are almost always picked by just about everyone in or near the top ten.

Then? Lots of diverging opinions.

Is Hasson Riddick a middle of the 1st round pick or a bottom of the 1st round pick?
Is Derek Barnett a middle of the 1st round pick or a bottom of the 1st round pick?
Is Takkarist McKinley a middle of the 1st round pick or a bottom of the 1st round pick?
Is Taco Charleston a middle of the 1st round pick or a bottom of the 1st round pick?

T.J. Watt? Charles Harris? Both seem to be a bottom of the 1st round or top of the 2nd round picks.

Do you like Riddick, Barnett, McKinley or Charleston better than Watt or Harris?

I love the idea of moving down if possible to fill more holes and I just don't know if I see a lot of difference between those guys once you get past the "elite" bunch.

Does anyone else?

Cheers,

Can I take one of Zach Cunningham/Jarrad Davis over Charlton/Harris/McKinley?

Because that's my choice. Derek Barnett though would be tempting.

I wouldn't trade down until the pick, though. If Reuben Foster does drop to us, as some Mocks are predicting (no, I don't personally see it), then you grab him. Else, I think you trade out.

[Coltsalr]

Originally Posted by natagu23

Lookout for this Forrest Lamp kid- Guard Western Kentucky

This guy can play pretty much every position on the line and i mean every position.

He shined versus Alabama.

This is a pick that could solidify the oline but could warrant the surprised "Who?" reaction if we call his name come the 15th pick.

I (as well as most of the dorks on here) know who he is and I have nothing against him and I bet he would indeed help solidify this line and with Ballard previously having been interested in an OG in free agency and with him hinting that he's not sure that our starting 5 is currently on the roster, part of me really thinks he's going to go in that direction.

I really think though that our needs at LB are too dire for us to go in any other direction with the 1st pick. No, Ballard didn't ignore the position or stock it stupidly like Grigson did (who tried both, and both failed miserably, go figure), but I think there's still a dire need for an injection of talent at that position.

[ukcolt]

I would prefer to trade down and still get one of the better corners such as Teez Tabor or Kevin King, towards the end of the 1st round, then select Carlos Watkins at DE, in the 2nd.

A mid to late round guy who i absolutely love is the corner back William Likely from Maryland.....he might very well have been the best corner in the nation last year before he tore up his ACL, but he is tiny at only 5'7" and is only going to be able to play the slot role in the NFL.

[ukcolt]

As Sherk has indicated a few times recently i would love to be able to stock pile a few more mid round picks, as i believe that this draft is absolutely loaded in the late 2nd through the the 4th rounds.

Guys such as:
CB Rasul Douglas
DE Carlos Watckins
SS Budda Baker
CB Jourdan Lewis
CB Sidney Jones
ILB Kendell Beckwith
ILB Alex Anzalone
DE Tanoh Kpassagnon
SS Marcus Maye
SS Obi Melifonwu
FS Eddie Jackson
NT Eddie Vanderdoes
NT Steve Tu'Ikolovatu

Any of these guys could potentially become significant contributors almost instantly.

This is just looking at the defensive side of the ball, there are about a dozen running backs, offensive linemen and Tight Ends who also could become very strong contributors for the Colts sooner rather than later who fit into this range of the draft. I wouldn't be against trading away our 5th, 6th and 7th rounders in 2018 to pick up an additional 4th this year.

[Coltsalr]

Marcus Maye is a guy I really like that I'd love to get with one of our 4th round picks. I think he'd be a great get at that position. I know he might be a bit redundant with Clayton Geathers, but let's let Geathers come back from that neck injury he had before we confidently turn down guys that might be similar in playing style to him.

[VeveJones007]

Originally Posted by sherck

So, if your choice was to:

A) Stand pat at 1-15 and pick from one of: Derek Barnett, Hasson Riddick or Takkarist McKinley.

B) Or trade down into the 20s to pick up an additional mid-round selections and pick from one of: Charles Harris, T.J. Watt, Taco Charleston.

Which scenario do you prefer?

I guess my real scenario is; there appears to be an "elite" grouping of front-7 defenders that includes: Myles Garrett, Solomon Thomas, Jonathan Allen and Reuben Foster. Those guys are almost always picked by just about everyone in or near the top ten.

Then? Lots of diverging opinions.

Is Hasson Riddick a middle of the 1st round pick or a bottom of the 1st round pick?
Is Derek Barnett a middle of the 1st round pick or a bottom of the 1st round pick?
Is Takkarist McKinley a middle of the 1st round pick or a bottom of the 1st round pick?
Is Taco Charleston a middle of the 1st round pick or a bottom of the 1st round pick?

T.J. Watt? Charles Harris? Both seem to be a bottom of the 1st round or top of the 2nd round picks.

Do you like Riddick, Barnett, McKinley or Charleston better than Watt or Harris?

I love the idea of moving down if possible to fill more holes and I just don't know if I see a lot of difference between those guys once you get past the "elite" bunch.

Does anyone else?

Cheers,

It's a tough call. I think Reddick could be a similar player to Robert Mathis with his explosive athleticism. That's hard to pass up at 15.

That being said, Reddick won't be there and Barnett/Taco aren't good enough to bypass a chance to move down. I'm hoping for a trade down and grabbing Harris later in Rd 1.

[HoosierinFL]

Originally Posted by VeveJones007

Why do you say that? They are high on Swoope and need to see if he continues to perform with more playing time. Do you really want to add a TE in round 3 or 4 who is on the bench for most of the year when you could potentially add a solid defender?

They just about flat out said the main reason they were willing to trade Allen was because they were excited about the TE depth in this draft and wanted more picks. To me this means they thought they could get rid of Allen's larger contract and injury history and draft a replacement.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by VeveJones007

It's a tough call. I think Reddick could be a similar player to Robert Mathis with his explosive athleticism. That's hard to pass up at 15.

That being said, Reddick won't be there and Barnett/Taco aren't good enough to bypass a chance to move down. I'm hoping for a trade down and grabbing Harris later in Rd 1.

If the Colts end up trading to the back of the first round, I'm hoping they'll take T.J. Watt at that point, but I'd prefer to get Reddick at 15.