The Daniel Jones effect is difficult to quantify

[Colts And Orioles]

Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles

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Daniel Jones Would ‘Love to Be Back’ With Colts, Expects to Be Ready by Start of Training Camp in 2026

(By J.J. Stankevitz)

https://www.colts.com/news/daniel-jo...g-camp-in-2026

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Will the Colts, Daniel Jones Run It Back in 2026 ???

(By Stephen Holder)

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...s-2026-outlook

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[sherck]

I think the best plan for the Colts would be to:

A. Sign Daniel Jones to a team friendly 3-year contract with almost zero signing bonus, a smallish 1st year ($15m), a good sized 2nd year ($35m) and a huge 3rd year ($50m) giving both sides the flexibility to renegoiate as desired. Obviously, the Colts can get out of it cheaply after years 1 or 2 if needed and could also renegoiate the 3rd year into an extension. Jones get the money if he can show that he was not just a one hit wonder.

B. Retain Riley Leonard. I am not sold on him but I would like to see if he can make a 2nd year jump as a backup.

C-1. If the right guy is there, draft a QB in the 2nd or 3rd round of the 2026 draft. Hopefully, someone who you can hope can develop into a starter.
C-2. If the right guy is not there, retain Anthony Richardson and hope that he can actually stay healthy and/or develop.

I like C-1 better than C-2 because I don't think AR is good at football but you have to have someone as QB3.....

[albany ed]

Originally Posted by sherck

I think the best plan for the Colts would be to:

A. Sign Daniel Jones to a team friendly 3-year contract with almost zero signing bonus, a smallish 1st year ($15m), a good sized 2nd year ($35m) and a huge 3rd year ($50m) giving both sides the flexibility to renegoiate as desired. Obviously, the Colts can get out of it cheaply after years 1 or 2 if needed and could also renegoiate the 3rd year into an extension. Jones get the money if he can show that he was not just a one hit wonder.

B. Retain Riley Leonard. I am not sold on him but I would like to see if he can make a 2nd year jump as a backup.

C-1. If the right guy is there, draft a QB in the 2nd or 3rd round of the 2026 draft. Hopefully, someone who you can hope can develop into a starter.
C-2. If the right guy is not there, retain Anthony Richardson and hope that he can actually stay healthy and/or develop.

I like C-1 better than C-2 because I don't think AR is good at football but you have to have someone as QB3.....

Brilliant!

[Oldcolt]

Originally Posted by sherck

I think the best plan for the Colts would be to:

A. Sign Daniel Jones to a team friendly 3-year contract with almost zero signing bonus, a smallish 1st year ($15m), a good sized 2nd year ($35m) and a huge 3rd year ($50m) giving both sides the flexibility to renegoiate as desired. Obviously, the Colts can get out of it cheaply after years 1 or 2 if needed and could also renegoiate the 3rd year into an extension. Jones get the money if he can show that he was not just a one hit wonder.

B. Retain Riley Leonard. I am not sold on him but I would like to see if he can make a 2nd year jump as a backup.

C-1. If the right guy is there, draft a QB in the 2nd or 3rd round of the 2026 draft. Hopefully, someone who you can hope can develop into a starter.
C-2. If the right guy is not there, retain Anthony Richardson and hope that he can actually stay healthy and/or develop.

I like C-1 better than C-2 because I don't think AR is good at football but you have to have someone as QB3.....

While I am not sold on Jones what other choice is there other than break everything up? What really concerns me are the people saying he is going to get 3 years and like 45 million a year. What you are suggesting is very reasonable and if Jones hits it like he did the first 8 games of the season both he and the Colts are set. I have zero faith unfortunately that this is what will happen.

[Puck]

Originally Posted by sherck

I think the best plan for the Colts would be to:

A. Sign Daniel Jones to a team friendly 3-year contract with almost zero signing bonus, a smallish 1st year ($15m), a good sized 2nd year ($35m) and a huge 3rd year ($50m) giving both sides the flexibility to renegoiate as desired. Obviously, the Colts can get out of it cheaply after years 1 or 2 if needed and could also renegoiate the 3rd year into an extension. Jones get the money if he can show that he was not just a one hit wonder.

B. Retain Riley Leonard. I am not sold on him but I would like to see if he can make a 2nd year jump as a backup.

C-1. If the right guy is there, draft a QB in the 2nd or 3rd round of the 2026 draft. Hopefully, someone who you can hope can develop into a starter.
C-2. If the right guy is not there, retain Anthony Richardson and hope that he can actually stay healthy and/or develop.

I like C-1 better than C-2 because I don't think AR is good at football but you have to have someone as QB3.....

Good post.

If this kid is there I hope they take him

https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/...iss-QB-OleMiss

Unless he wins his lawsuit and gets one more yr eligibility

[Colts And Orioles]

Originally Posted by Kray007

PFF, as is their wont, assigned him a passing grade for the game…66.5, which ranked him 19th among Quarterbacks after week 1. Digging into their mountain of stats, I discover that only 3.3 percent of his passes were considered big time throws. His expected completion percentage of 75.9% was exactly the same as his actual completion percentage, which means that nobody was dropping balls. Under pressure, he completed 4 of 5 passes. Against the blitz, that number dropped to 68 percent and change.

All of which leads me to the not unsurprising revelation that there’s more that goes into playing the position than anything you can glean from statistics.

Daniel Jones doesn’t bring elite traits to the table. He doesn’t have an arm that will wow you, he isn’t a riverboat gambler. There’s nothing flashy about his game, we’re never going to see a jaw dropping, Anthony Richardson moment when he spins away from pressure, stumbles, and launches a 65 yard TD strike to Alec Pierce.

What he brings to the table is reliability and an unsurpassed work ethic. He recognizes defenses, makes solid pre snap reads, and manages to exploit an opponent’s weaknesses. He keeps the chains moving and extends drives, milking every last play for maximum benefit. If the choice is between forcing the ball into tight coverage 40 yards downfield and settling for a 10 yard crossing play with an 80 percent chance of success, he opts for the easy 1st down. He’s accurate and throws a ball that’s easy to catch; everything isn’t a 98 mph fast ball.

In other words, he’s a pro; and, sometimes, that’s the difference between losing 17-10 and winning 33-8.

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(7 WEEKS LATER)


As a Colts fan, my 2 biggest fears are ......


1) l Daniel Jones getting injured.


2) l The Kansas City Chiefs.


In my rat's ass of an opinion, the Chiefs are the biggest obstacle to the Colts making a deep playoff run and/or the Colts advancing to the Super Bowl. Presuming that the Colts do make the playoffs, I hope that they would not have to play the Chiefs until the AFC Championship game (if at all.)

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[Oldcolt]

How in the hell isn't Daniel Jones elite? Name one thing, one, that an 'elite' QB can do that Jones doesn't do? He is the best QB on the best offense in a QB driven league. He makes every throw, read defenses as good as anyone, moves well in the pocket (doesn't get sacked) and is in complete sync with his head coach. He is the best QB in the league right now and only prejudices from asshole New York based writers keep people for admitting it. It won't change until Feb when he wins the next and his first Super Bowl

[albany ed]

Originally Posted by Oldcolt

How in the hell isn't Daniel Jones elite? Name one thing, one, that an 'elite' QB can do that Jones doesn't do? He is the best QB on the best offense in a QB driven league. He makes every throw, read defenses as good as anyone, moves well in the pocket (doesn't get sacked) and is in complete sync with his head coach. He is the best QB in the league right now and only prejudices from asshole New York based writers keep people for admitting it. It won't change until Feb when he wins the next and his first Super Bowl

I don't think one half of one season with outstanding stats in your 7th year as a normally not so prolific QB qualifies as an elite QB. Don't get me wrong, he's performing better than anyone expected, but it is just a half season of great work, and it's been against mostly weak teams. Most of us on this board, predicted nothing but a shitty season regardless of whether DJ or AR was the starting QB. Now, some folks here are thinking we're the best team in the NFL. Not me, I'd like nothing better than to be proven wrong, but I feel there are tough times ahead.

[Oldcolt]

Originally Posted by albany ed

I don't think one half of one season with outstanding stats in your 7th year as a normally not so prolific QB qualifies as an elite QB. Don't get me wrong, he's performing better than anyone expected, but it is just a half season of great work, and it's been against mostly weak teams. Most of us on this board, predicted nothing but a shitty season regardless of whether DJ or AR was the starting QB. Now, some folks here are thinking we're the best team in the NFL. Not me, I'd like nothing better than to be proven wrong, but I feel there are tough times ahead.

He is playing elite right now and has all season. And it has nothing to do with his stats, it has to do with how he is playing the position. Mistake free football is huge. He is elite mentally, that won't change. I also think we are as good as anyone right now and will be much better when Ward gets back. It could all fall apart and if it does I'll be bitching like everyone else but to me this doesn't look at all like a smoke and mirrors kind of thing.

[bigalbert]

I keep waiting for the balloon to pop but it doesn’t. Even the biggest homer of a Colts fan wouldn’t have guessed we’d be here. I would like to take a little credit, I canceled the NFL package before the season which I’ve had for 30 years. Don’t worry I won’t buy any midseason special.