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Old 11-28-2021, 07:52 PM
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We can’t run Taylor into the ground there has to be some balance let’s be honest
1 carry in the 3rd

17 straight pass attempts

Taylor dominates a drive on the ground in the 4th

Mack is a healthy scratch

Reich is a POS
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Old 11-28-2021, 07:57 PM
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We can’t run Taylor into the ground there has to be some balance let’s be honest
There definitely has to be balance. The trouble is in the 2nd half, there was none until that last TD drive.
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Old 11-28-2021, 08:22 PM
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Can’t blame Reich for the huge fumble by Wentz and Hines that were game changers
This is true. There's reason to want us to run more in the second half. But all this "Frank Reich needs to be fired" talk is overkill to say the least.

This is where I can't get on board with a lot of guys here commenting about play-calling or 4th down attempts or whatever. Seems like post-hoc criticism.

We tried to run early, didn't get much. So we started passing. And it's not like we were banging our heads against the wall. The pass was absolutely working against Tampa Bay.

-We scored 21 in the 2nd quarter.

-First drive of second half, all passes, we drive down to the red zone. Shaq Barrett destroying our drive was not because of Frank Reich's play-calling.

-TB touchdown

-Next drive, moving the ball again, two more first downs, TB territory. Wentz throws up a 50/50 ball that Pittman loses to Winfield. Questionable decision, not the play-call.

-TB touchdown

-Third drive, 3rd and 2 becomes 3rd and 17 after consecutive holding and false start penalties. Not on play-calling.

-Finally force TB to punt again... And Hines muffs it at our 19. Not on play- calling.

-TB field goal.

-We get one drive in the second half where we don't kill ourselves with turnovers or penalties, and just like earlier in the game, we move the ball right down the field and score.

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We were moving the ball today and if not for devastating mistakes by players... It looked to me like we were on our way to dropping another 40-burger this week.
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Old 11-28-2021, 08:26 PM
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We can’t run Taylor into the ground there has to be some balance let’s be honest
26 passes in a row is not balanced.

Also, Reich hasn't had any issues with continuing to hand the ball off to JT in the 4th quarter of blowout wins when the game's already decided (Buff, Hou). If he's wanting to limit some of JT's carries so he's fresher later in the season why not do it then instead of when games are still undecided?

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Reich gets the blame for every loss and every pass play that isn’t successful. Guys are against becoming one dimensional unless that one dimension is running. The sack / fumble obviously should have been a run. Same with the interception. Now the long bomb to Dulin was a good play call of course.
The problem is that we have 3 games where we've blown a double digit lead and lost, and in all 3 of those losses our best player was vastly underutilized. I'm not on the fire Frank bandwagon, but he really needs to quit inexplicably going away from the run for crazy long stretches at a time.

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26 passes in a row is not balanced.

Also, Reich hasn't had any issues with continuing to hand the ball off to JT in the 4th quarter of blowout wins when the game's already decided (Buff, Hou). If he's wanting to limit some of JT's carries so he's fresher later in the season why not do it then instead of when games are still undecided?
The run game had early success vs both teams the Bucs are super bowl champs and they were daring us to throw and we were having success, they didn’t stop Doyle all game long that was because of the threat of Taylor

The turnovers lost the game period that drive late in the 4th was a thing of beauty

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The problem is that we have 3 games where we've blown a double digit lead and lost, and in all 3 of those losses our best player was vastly underutilized. I'm not on the fire Frank bandwagon, but he really needs to quit inexplicably going away from the run for crazy long stretches at a time.
I agree 100%. No need to fire the guy. Turnovers happened, and they cost us the game, not the play calls.
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I agree 100%. No need to fire the guy. Turnovers happened, and they cost us the game, not the play calls.
But we can all the play the woulda, coulda, shoulda card. What if we weren't going absolutely bonkers passing on every down and the DE had to at least maintain some level of edge contain due to the threat of JT instead of doing his best Robert Mathis mad dog impersonation? Would there have been the strip sack?

That's the problem with this guy. Way too many games where you can sit back and say "shoulda kicked the FG, shoulda punted, shoulda run the ball".

Yep, we are just fans and he is making millions coaching at the highest level. But there is a very clear trend of being able to look back at losses with this team, with him calling the shots, where you can do this.

He sucks!
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This was a very disappointing loss. To me, while everyone except Taylor should share the blame, I am most disappointed in the OL. How can everyone from fans to talking heads tout this line as being great, when they may be the worst line in football for pass blocking. I can count on one hand the amount of times this entire season I've seen Wentz have all the time in the world to throw a pass. Brady had that on almost every snap. Can anyone explain how this line can be so good on run blocking and so bad on pass blocking?
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But we can all the play the woulda, coulda, shoulda card. What if we weren't going absolutely bonkers passing on every down and the DE had to at least maintain some level of edge contain due to the threat of JT instead of doing his best Robert Mathis mad dog impersonation? Would there have been the strip sack?

That's the problem with this guy. Way too many games where you can sit back and say "shoulda kicked the FG, shoulda punted, shoulda run the ball".

Yep, we are just fans and he is making millions coaching at the highest level. But there is a very clear trend of being able to look back at losses with this team, with him calling the shots, where you can do this.

He sucks!
His plays scored us 31 points. Most times, that gets you the W. Turnovers prevented it from being 45 points or more.
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