COVID in the complex

[Puck]

Originally Posted by Oldcolt

As a practicing physician for 40 years, recently retired, that isn't how it works. Any single individual may have an easy course or a difficult one regardless of vaccination status. Giving the vaccine to a large population, less of those vaccinated will get sick or die, but it doesn't mean that nobody who is vaccinated will get sick or die. Statistics cannot tell you how any individual will respond, it will tell you how a population will respond.

So you cannot tell if either are vaccinated correct?

[ChaosTheory]

Originally Posted by rm1369

I guess I’m missing your point. It’s seems you are just yelling into the wind that Covid sucks and is affecting football (along with everything else).

Well, then you are missing my point. Because it annoys me to no end how many people do that. Very few sports fans (or people in general) seem to know or care to know much about this stuff.

I agree with you that this is an image thing for the NFL. Goddamn do I agree with that. So much so that if the tests are not reflecting what we're selling, we'll just stop testing. It's like saying we'll decriminalize these crimes so that our city will have less crime. It's asinine.

Almost nobody complaining about players on covid lists gives a single fuck about that player's well-being or spreading the virus. They just want Darius Leonard making plays for the Colts. That's where the "selfish" pejorative comes from. It's not because he's spreading a virus. Nobody cares. It's because the only thing that matters is we don't want our team playing with a backup linebacker.

You implied as much saying it's a win-win coercing players into taking the vaccine because they won't be tested as much. That doesn't scream to me that your main interest is to keep covid out of the building.

[Puck]

Originally Posted by chaostheory

well, then you are missing my point. Because it annoys me to no end how many people do that. Very few sports fans (or people in general) seem to know or care to know much about this stuff.

I agree with you that this is an image thing for the nfl. Goddamn do i agree with that. So much so that if the tests are not reflecting what we're selling, we'll just stop testing. It's like saying we'll decriminalize these crimes so that our city will have less crime. It's asinine.

Almost nobody complaining about players on covid lists gives a single fuck about that player's well-being or spreading the virus. They just want darius leonard making plays for the colts. That's where the "selfish" pejorative comes from. It's not because he's spreading a virus. Nobody cares. It's because the only thing that matters is we don't want our team playing with a backup linebacker.

You implied as much saying it's a win-win coercing players into taking the vaccine because they won't be tested as much. That doesn't scream to me that your main interest is to keep covid out of the building.

bingo!!

[rm1369]

Originally Posted by ChaosTheory

Well, then you are missing my point. Because it annoys me to no end how many people do that. Very few sports fans (or people in general) seem to know or care to know much about this stuff.

I agree with you that this is an image thing for the NFL. Goddamn do I agree with that. So much so that if the tests are not reflecting what we're selling, we'll just stop testing. It's like saying we'll decriminalize these crimes so that our city will have less crime. It's asinine.

Almost nobody complaining about players on covid lists gives a single fuck about that player's well-being or spreading the virus. They just want Darius Leonard making plays for the Colts. That's where the "selfish" pejorative comes from. It's not because he's spreading a virus. Nobody cares. It's because the only thing that matters is we don't want our team playing with a backup linebacker.

You implied as much saying it's a win-win coercing players into taking the vaccine because they won't be tested as much. That doesn't scream to me that your main interest is to keep covid out of the building.

You can go back to my post history at the beginning of the season and see my main issue with our players was their selfishness within their communities - especially Leonard. However I’m responding to your rant about the NFL as it appeared to be competition related so I kept it at that. I’ll be clear - we have a selfish group of players that have made the calculation that since they statistically aren’t likely to die from Covid they don’t give a fuck about anything else. Leonard had been one of my favorite players, but I will never own a Leonard jersey because as far as I’m concerned he’s a selfish asshole who is doing damage to his community. I’ll never own a Wentz or Nelson jersey either.

As far as the NFL, the single best thing they could do to protect players lives is to push vaccinations. The single best thing they could do to for their communities was to push vaccinations. The single best thing they could do to protect their image is push vaccinations. What did they do? Pushed vaccinations. It doesn’t matter which one they did it for, but it seems pretty obvious to me they did the single best thing they could do.

You seem to want to complain and still haven’t suggested what they should be doing. More? Less? Or do you just want to bitch and moan like 1/3 of the population? Be clear - what should they have done?

[rm1369]

Originally Posted by Puck

So you cannot tell if either are vaccinated correct?

Two guys wreck their cars. One walks away from his wreck with no injury, the other dies in his. Can you definitively tell me if they were wearing seatbelts?

[Butter]

Originally Posted by rm1369

As far as the NFL, the single best thing they could do to protect players lives is to push vaccinations. The single best thing they could do to for their communities was to push vaccinations. The single best thing they could do to protect their image is push vaccinations. What did they do? Pushed vaccinations. It doesn’t matter which one they did it for, but it seems pretty obvious to me they did the single best thing they could do.

This.

[Butter]

Originally Posted by ChaosTheory

Almost nobody complaining about players on covid lists gives a single fuck about that player's well-being or spreading the virus. They just want Darius Leonard making plays for the Colts. That's where the "selfish" pejorative comes from. It's not because he's spreading a virus. Nobody cares. It's because the only thing that matters is we don't want our team playing with a backup linebacker.

BS. I don't want Jackasses like Leonard spreading disinformation and discouraging others from being vaccinated. Like it or not they are role models. I work in healthcare in a role very much impacted by the pandemic and my everyday life has been impacted for going on two years because idiots won't get the poke or do the bare minimum to help reduce the spread. I dread every day going to work to deal with the shit show it has become. So fuck you and fuck all the morons who won't do a simple thing to help their community.

[Puck]

Originally Posted by rm1369

Two guys wreck their cars. One walks away from his wreck with no injury, the other dies in his. Can you definitively tell me if they were wearing seatbelts?

Nope Your turn

[apballin]

Reading all this is entertaining to say the least

[rm1369]

Originally Posted by Puck

Nope Your turn

As has already been said, individually - nope. Now show me a random sampling of 10,000 of each group and I can pick out the vaccinated and unvaccinated groups. Just as you likely could with seatbelts.