Free Agents Discussion

[cq.noble]

Originally Posted by VeveJones007

Just filling out the roster in UFA, rolling over cap space to 2018 for the new coaches, schemes, etc.

These signings make it pretty apparent that Pagano is done.

Uhh... I want Pagano gone too but cap space has less than nothing to do with coaching changes. It's not like he's sandbagging the season, he's doing what he said he would do in not trying to build through free agency.

[omahacolt]

Originally Posted by ukcolt

TE - Brandon Williams - Fighting for a roster spot as the third TE.
C/G - Brian Schwenke - Battling for the right guard spot, primary backup at C and G.
NT - Al Woods - In a competition with David Parry for the starting NT job.
DE - Margus Hunt - Will be in competition with T.Y. McGill and Arthur Jones along with any draft picks, but is renowned as a special teams ace, so probably has that as an advantage over both McGill and Jones.
OLB - Jabaal Sheard - Signed to be our starting OLB and primary pass rush specialist.
OLB - John Simon - Signed to be our starting OLB, with the hope that he will thrive given a chance of being a full time starter.
OLB - Barkevious Mingo - will be in a scrap for the 3rd, 4th or 5th OLB position with Ayers and any draft picks.
ILB - Sean Spence - will be one of our starters in the middle of our defense and should be the best coverage linebacker that we have had in possibly 10 years.
P - Jeff Locke - Almost sure fire starter.

So this free agency we have signed 3 certain defense starters, another guy who will see serious game time in a rotation at NT, and then the other guys are upgrades as backups with regards to anything that we have had in the past 5 years or so.

I like what we have done this offseason, you have to build your team through the draft, and add complimentary pieces to round out the roster.

"You have to build through the draft"

Doesn't mean you can't sign a difference maker in free agency. Not sure why people can't figure this out

[YDFL Commish]

Originally Posted by omahacolt

"You have to build through the draft"

Doesn't mean you can't sign a difference maker in free agency. Not sure why people can't figure this out

How many true difference makers were there out there? Poe, Gilmore, Hightower....I dunno, you can dd on from there, but none of them move the needle for me.

The reality is, that as the salary cap increases there are far fewer cap strapped teams that can't sign their difference makers.

I hate to say it, but the current CBA, that Jeff Saturday helped to draft, is a disaster in many ways.

[GoBigBlue88]

Originally Posted by omahacolt

"You have to build through the draft"

Doesn't mean you can't sign a difference maker in free agency. Not sure why people can't figure this out

I mean, hell, I'd rather have Alshon Jeffery at 1yr @ 8M than the combination of Schwenke, Woods, Williams and Hunt, personally.

[omahacolt]

Originally Posted by YDFL Commish

How many true difference makers were there out there? Poe, Gilmore, Hightower....I dunno, you can dd on from there, but none of them move the needle for me.

The reality is, that as the salary cap increases there are far fewer cap strapped teams that can't sign their difference makers.

I hate to say it, but the current CBA, that Jeff Saturday helped to draft, is a disaster in many ways.

The dude spent 30 million and we have the same or more holes on the roster than last year.

[VeveJones007]

Originally Posted by natagu23

This is not the comprehensive strategy i was excepting trying to fill all the holes we have.

Again, if you're gonna go all-in with the draft as your sole way of retooling, you better nail your high picks.

Regardless of UFA, if you're going to consistently win in the NFL, you better nail your high picks.

Exhibit A:
Manning, Peyton
Harrison, Marvin
James, Edgerrin
Wayne, Reggie
Clark, Dallas
Glenn, Tarik
Freeney, Dwight
Sanders, Bob

[VeveJones007]

Originally Posted by omahacolt

"You have to build through the draft"

Doesn't mean you can't sign a difference maker in free agency. Not sure why people can't figure this out

Very true. Which is part of the reason why I believe Ballard signed stopgaps for this season. You don't shoot your wad now if you might bring in a new coach who wants to run a different scheme. You save that money for next offseason.

[VeveJones007]

Originally Posted by cq.noble

Uhh... I want Pagano gone too but cap space has less than nothing to do with coaching changes. It's not like he's sandbagging the season, he's doing what he said he would do in not trying to build through free agency.

Sandbagging is not representative of what I said. Ballard is signing stopgaps. That doesn't mean he isn't trying to be competitive this year.

[VeveJones007]

Originally Posted by GoBigBlue88

I mean, hell, I'd rather have Alshon Jeffery at 1yr @ 8M than the combination of Schwenke, Woods, Williams and Hunt, personally.

Ballard may agree with you. We don't know what he offered Jeffrey.

[Wyatt]

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