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So far, Jones looks even better than Plunkett did with the Raiders in the early 1980's.

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I said that somewhat tongue-in-cheek.

And while it's not fair to compare the statistics of past quarterbacks to the ultra-protected/ultra-coddled quarterbacks of today, Plunkett had what was arguably the best offensive line in the history of professional football blocking for him ...... the Colts' offensive line is good this year, but they are not on par with the Raiders' offensive lines from anywhere between 1967 and 1983.

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So far, 3 games into the season, I would say that we have the best QB in the division. Who could have predicted that?
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So far, 3 games into the season, I would say that we have the best QB in the division. l Who could have predicted that ???



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Yeah but he doesn’t start. J/k
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Let's see if DJ can keep it going, but after 3 games, he has the highest QBR of any QB in the NFL.
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My only real concern about Jones is his deep ball. Every one seems to be under thrown. It is going to bite us in the ass someday. I believe he has enough arm (look at what Brady had) but just needs work on timing. It does worry me that this is a major issue with him in his NY days, although he had almost zero pocket time there to set things up.

I would say that that is mitigated a ton by what I think is the most important thing and that is the growing single mind between Jones and Steichen. You cannot overestimate how positive that is for us and for them. They seem to see the same things out there. And what the fuck is up with this bullshit backhand 'compliment' that all these assholes give him of being a 'game manager'? What the hell even is that? How do they separate game managers from whatever they call a non game manager? It is just a way to depreciate what Jones is doing cause great QBs are NOT 'game managers' (again whatever the hell that happens to mean). Sorry, small rant
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"...whatever they call a non game manager?

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My only real concern about Jones is his deep ball. Every one seems to be under thrown. It is going to bite us in the ass someday. I believe he has enough arm (look at what Brady had) but just needs work on timing. It does worry me that this is a major issue with him in his NY days, although he had almost zero pocket time there to set things up.

I would say that that is mitigated a ton by what I think is the most important thing and that is the growing single mind between Jones and Steichen. You cannot overestimate how positive that is for us and for them. They seem to see the same things out there. And what the fuck is up with this bullshit backhand 'compliment' that all these assholes give him of being a 'game manager'? What the hell even is that? How do they separate game managers from whatever they call a non game manager? It is just a way to depreciate what Jones is doing cause great QBs are NOT 'game managers' (again whatever the hell that happens to mean). Sorry, small rant

Solid on both points. I hope that this will improve as he get more comfortable in the pocket and his trust in his OL grows. It seems Like he only seems to have this problem in hitting someone running away from him. The first or second throw to Josh Downs was 30 yards or so and right on the money. Another throw to Warren was ruled not a catch and overturned on a challenge was underthrown:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH12LxVA-Ao

I agree with you that "game manager" is as meaningless as "strip sack." As long as a game manager is managing to get wins, I don't care what words the talking heads squeeze in between comments about the Cowboys and Eagles.
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