Colts draft RB DJ Giddens - Round 5, Pick 151

[YDFL Commish]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

D.J. is the starter by 2027.

If not 2026. I want JT kicked to the curb.

[YDFL Commish]

Giddens reminds me so much of Addai. Watch their college tape side by side and you'll see what I mean.

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by YDFL Commish

If not 2026. I want JT kicked to the curb.

Why do you want him kicked to the curb?

[YDFL Commish]

#1 He has Russell Wilson disease (a complete phony)
#2 He has no desire to improve (see below) (see above)
#3 He sucks in the passing game...can't catch or run routes
#4 He sucks as a pass blocker
#5 No situational awareness or football sense. People want to point out the Denver game, but his gawd awful performance in the Giants game put him on my shit list.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by YDFL Commish

Giddens reminds me so much of Addai. Watch their college tape side by side and you'll see what I mean.

I see what you're saying, but Addai's shimmies never worked that well. Honestly as a runner he reminds me of JT with less fumble issues, and as a receiver, when he catches the ball he reminds me of Edge, but he has to get more consistent with catching the ball. Honestly the place he reminds me most of Addai is pass pro, where he's willing but not great at it, but that's a step up from unwilling JT.

Originally Posted by YDFL Commish

#1 He has Russell Wilson disease (a complete phony)
#2 He has no desire to improve (see below) (see above)
#3 He sucks in the passing game...can't catch or run routes
#4 He sucks as a pass blocker
#5 No situational awareness or football sense. People want to point out the Denver game, but his gawd awful performance in the Giants game put him on my shit list.

There are two parts of football that are all about effort and desire for a RB, IMO at least. They are protecting the football (keeping fumbles to a minimum) and pass pro. JT sucks at both, which tells me he has all the talent in the world and no or very little desire to improve.

[Mr. Session]

Addai had a great headfake, a solid jumpcut, and could run with power. I didn't think the dancing was all that effective either but when he was hitting on all cylinders he was a pretty damn good running back.

I think he ran with a lot more power at LSU then the kid out of KS does but I see the similarities in their elusiveness. Some guys have that, some guys don't. This kid out of KS has it, clearly, and Addai had it in a way Donald Brown simply didn't (Hated that pick but loved how he finished here).

Comparing Addai to Taylor, to me, is nuts. Taylor is a North South guy at his very core. Whenever Taylor starts trying to go lateral and play with an agility skill set he looks average.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by Mr. Session

Addai had a great headfake, a solid jumpcut, and could run with power. I didn't think the dancing was all that effective either but when he was hitting on all cylinders he was a pretty damn good running back.

I think he ran with a lot more power at LSU then the kid out of KS does but I see the similarities in their elusiveness. Some guys have that, some guys don't. This kid out of KS has it, clearly, and Addai had it in a way Donald Brown simply didn't (Hated that pick but loved how he finished here).

Comparing Addai to Taylor, to me, is nuts. Taylor is a North South guy at his very core. Whenever Taylor starts trying to go lateral and play with an agility skill set he looks average.

Who compared Addai to Taylor? YDFL compared Giddens to Addai, while I said that Giddens reminded me of JT as a runner, a less consistent Edge as a receiver, and Addai in pass pro.

That said, watch Giddens run and tell me you don't see JT with better ball protection and less breakaway speed.

[Mr. Session]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

Who compared Addai to Taylor? YDFL compared Giddens to Addai, while I said that Giddens reminded me of JT as a runner, a less consistent Edge as a receiver, and Addai in pass pro.

That said, watch Giddens run and tell me you don't see JT with better ball protection and less breakaway speed.

I can't fucking read, you're right; My bad.

I genuinely see more Addai in the guy, personally. I do not really see how he compares to Taylor.

[ukcolt]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

There are two parts of football that are all about effort and desire for a RB, IMO at least. They are protecting the football (keeping fumbles to a minimum) and pass pro. JT sucks at both, which tells me he has all the talent in the world and no or very little desire to improve.

I am not sure what you are on about regards fumbles. He has had 1369 touches of the ball and lost a total of 7 fumbles, thats once every 196 touches.

Derrick Henry has 2355 touches in his career and has 10 fumbles lost, so 1 every 234 touches.

But over the last 2 years in Taylor's 509 touches of the ball he has fumbled just the once where he has lost the ball, that's actually amazingly good, and not bad in any way shape or form!!! Henry is actually even better
over the same time period he has 1 fumble lost in the last 652 touches.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by ukcolt

I am not sure what you are on about regards fumbles. He has had 1369 touches of the ball and lost a total of 7 fumbles, thats once every 196 touches.

Derrick Henry has 2355 touches in his career and has 10 fumbles lost, so 1 every 234 touches.

But over the last 2 years in Taylor's 509 touches of the ball he has fumbled just the once where he has lost the ball, that's actually amazingly good, and not bad in any way shape or form!!! Henry is actually even better
over the same time period he has 1 fumble lost in the last 652 touches.

JT cost the Colts a game in his rookie year and their season last year with fumbles. Say he doesn't have a fumble problem if you want, but he has a fumble problem when it matters.