so Donald Trump

[Lov2fish]

Originally Posted by Pez

So I'm as liberal as they come and despite some of your hyperbolic language and assumption that there is such a thing as a liberal agenda, I agree with you to an extent. There are many liberals that do not have clear thinking on these matters and equate anything white and male to oppression of that which is not white and male.

That aside, one of my biggest frustrations with Trump is that he says his tax plan is so kind to the middle class, when one of the largest cornerstones of it is the repeal of the Estate Tax (now called the Death Tax by the GOP).

How can that possibly help the middle class, or how can it possibly help our country? Is the tax of assets bequeathed to others really any sort of barrier to economic growth?

The lowest tax rate is currently 10%, that will raise to 12%, how can people expect this to be any sort of economic stimulant. Not to mention that the majority of people paying that lowest tax rate are something other than white.

You're posing this as if I am a Trump supporter? I am not. I don't subscribe to the two party duopoly. They are one in the same. Zero distinction in difference. I'll personally be glad with this whole house of cards come crashing down and the thud of it is deafening. The constitution was written to keep shit like this from happening, but Americans became complacent and lazy. It was also designed to keep mob rule from control, I.E. current liberal politics. The word democracy does not appear anywhere in the bill of rights or constitution and the forefathers were very cautious to make sure it wasn't in there. To keep the government from voting themselves everything they wanted and reward the populace who voted for them.

We have been given our bread and circuses and we cheer.

I am saddened that one day the soft pussies of today will ruin it completely when they become the majority. It Trump doesn't tip us over the edge the next moron will. Even though I lean conservative, I mind my fucking business and have zero interest in the Republican party. They bailed on conservatives a long time ago. When they decided they wanted to legislate bedrooms, religion and marriage. And before the Republicans on here get all butt hurt. When was the last time a Republican president, congress or senate shrunk government? I'll wait.

[Pez]

Originally Posted by Lov2fish

...You're posing this as if I am a Trump supporter? I am not. I don't subscribe to the two party duopoly. They are one in the same. Zero distinction in difference....

To be honest I quoted you directly, but my post was not trying to assume you supported anyone in particular. I was trying to change the subject by asking some generic questions about the facts in our president's tax plan and thereby lead the thread toward a more productive discussion among thinking people.

I agree with your point that there is no longer any difference between the parties, with the exception of a color and a mascot. Democrats want to have control, Republicans want to have control and will become chameleons in order to do so. Life begins at conception but capital punishment is ok. Abortion is a right, but capital punishment is not...

At the end of the day all these fuckers want is our money. At least Trump doesn't hide it. I'm pretty sure that's the Only positive thing I have ever said about him.

I identify as a liberal and not a democrat, though to be honest I'm conservative on some issues (gun control, etc).

[Lov2fish]

Originally Posted by Pez

To be honest I quoted you directly, but my post was not trying to assume you supported anyone in particular. I was trying to change the subject by asking some generic questions about the facts in our president's tax plan and thereby lead the thread toward a more productive discussion among thinking people.

I agree with your point that there is no longer any difference between the parties, with the exception of a color and a mascot. Democrats want to have control, Republicans want to have control and will become chameleons in order to do so. Life begins at conception but capital punishment is ok. Abortion is a right, but capital punishment is not...

At the end of the day all these fuckers want is our money. At least Trump doesn't hide it. I'm pretty sure that's the Only positive thing I have ever said about him.

I identify as a liberal and not a democrat, though to be honest I'm conservative on some issues (gun control, etc).

When it comes to taxes I am pretty libertarian, taxation is theft. We had roads, bridges, libraries, firemen and policemen before the IRS and the beginning of the giant albatross hanging around our neck. I don't have a lot nice to say about any of them. I am a constitutionality kinda guy. Both sides cherry pick the parts they wanna champion, or cuss when it prevents them their agenda. If it doesn't effect my everyday life, fuck it. If it becomes detrimental to my life and you can't fix it, kill it.

I believe in closed borders, you want to come here and enjoy the American dream it should be hard. It should be damned hard.

A lot of my philosophy falls under the Libertarian flag, but there also a few that nowhere close represents my thinking. Their nap is shit. I 100% condone violence to settle some issues. When confronted with aggression my philosophy is meet it head on with an unspeakable evil that would make the devil quiver in disgust.

I am not that much different than you, or any republicans. I just have a different approach. Life is way to short for sugarcoating anything. Stand up for what you believe in, and be prepared to kill or die for it. Compromise is surrender, or consent. I come from a military family. Father was a sniper in Korea, grandfather was a firearms instructor in the Navy. My oldest brother was Navy and my little brother a Marine. I tried to join the Marines, but I had 5 knee surgeries by time I graduated high school and failed all 3 physicals.

I know some on here think I am asshole, it's fine I won't lose sleep over it. I just refuse to change for sake of change, and I won't be politically correct to keep from hurting someones feelz. Just a regular ole guy who refuses to be bullied into some cause just because it's the latest miscarriage of justice in a never ending line of injustice.