Free Agents Discussion

[Puck]

I wonder if the hold up on Butler is if he wants CB money and they want to pay Safety money. I wonder how much difference the pay is?

[sherck]

While I prefer Brown or Hodges, I will trust Ballard until he shows that he should not be trusted.

So far, he is doing fine.

Cheers,

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[sherck]

Meh...I cannot believe that Hunt will make it out of camp.

He has been a 4-3 DE his entire career so a transition to OLB or 3-4 DE seems fraught with peril.

He is a bit of kick blocking machine with 3 blocked kicks in 2016 (2 PAT and 1 FG) so perhaps he is a ST body but...

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[sherck]

From an NFL.com article titled "Best team fit for notable remaining free agents."


Johnathan Hankins, defensive tackle

NFL fans don't know Hankins well after his first four years in the league, but it's surprising to see NFL teams share the apathy. The defensive tackle market has been slow to develop throughout free agency, with Dontari Poe also still available and Bennie Logan not signing a contract until Monday. Turning 25 years old at the end of the month, Hankins boasts impressive upside and experience as a three-year starter for the Giants. How many 320-pound run stuffers have a seven-sack season on their résumé?

Our No. 3 free agent still available, Hankins has generated suboptimal buzz. He looks destined to wind up on a short-term deal with a team looking for value. The Falcons, Colts, Dolphins and Packers should be in the market for a defensive tackle like Hankins, with the first three teams meeting with Poe. The Colts already have shown an eye for value early in free agency. Getting Hankins at a discount rate would make a lot of sense.

BEST FIT: Indianapolis Colts



While I don't think that he is a true 3-4 NT, he is available, probably cheaper than Poe and would help stabilize the position for a year or two along with perhaps a rookie draft pick and/or Parry if he is retained.

We need someone with beef manning the middle and while Hankins is not ideal, he is a 3-year NFL starter with talent who would be a plus for our defense.

I don't know why this deal and a deal for an ILB is not getting done TODAY.

Cheers,

[smitty46953]

Originally Posted by sherck

From an NFL.com article titled "Best team fit for notable remaining free agents."


Johnathan Hankins, defensive tackle

NFL fans don't know Hankins well after his first four years in the league, but it's surprising to see NFL teams share the apathy. The defensive tackle market has been slow to develop throughout free agency, with Dontari Poe also still available and Bennie Logan not signing a contract until Monday. Turning 25 years old at the end of the month, Hankins boasts impressive upside and experience as a three-year starter for the Giants. How many 320-pound run stuffers have a seven-sack season on their résumé?

Our No. 3 free agent still available, Hankins has generated suboptimal buzz. He looks destined to wind up on a short-term deal with a team looking for value. The Falcons, Colts, Dolphins and Packers should be in the market for a defensive tackle like Hankins, with the first three teams meeting with Poe. The Colts already have shown an eye for value early in free agency. Getting Hankins at a discount rate would make a lot of sense.

BEST FIT: Indianapolis Colts



While I don't think that he is a true 3-4 NT, he is available, probably cheaper than Poe and would help stabilize the position for a year or two along with perhaps a rookie draft pick and/or Parry if he is retained.

We need someone with beef manning the middle and while Hankins is not ideal, he is a 3-year NFL starter with talent who would be a plus for our defense.

I don't know why this deal and a deal for an ILB is not getting done TODAY.

Cheers,

Been my choice all along ... Won't complain with Poe but think overall Hankins should be here ...

[Maniac]

From the miami herald via rotoworld:

Free agent DT Johnathan Hankins has been holding firm that he wants a multi-year contract.
Hankins, 25 later this month, has surprisingly drawn zero interest in the 7-10 days free agency has been open. Easily one of the best players left on the market, Hankins wants to be a starter and seeks $8 million-plus per year. According to Dolphins ace beat writer Armando Salguero, Miami checked in on Hankins, but he isn't willing to accept a one-year offer. Hankins went into this reportedly wanting a five-year deal at $45 million or more. That's highly unlikely to happen at this stage of free agency. Whoever eventually lands Hankins could be getting a bargain.

[sherck]

Originally Posted by JesusChrist

Free agent DT Johnathan Hankins has been holding firm that he wants a multi-year contract.
Hankins, 25 later this month, has surprisingly drawn zero interest in the 7-10 days free agency has been open. Easily one of the best players left on the market, Hankins wants to be a starter and seeks $8 million-plus per year. According to Dolphins ace beat writer Armando Salguero, Miami checked in on Hankins, but he isn't willing to accept a one-year offer. Hankins went into this reportedly wanting a five-year deal at $45 million or more. That's highly unlikely to happen at this stage of free agency. Whoever eventually lands Hankins could be getting a bargain.

I would give him a multi-year deal....say 3-year, $15 - 18m to come play NT for us.

That would give Hankins the opportunity to develop into a stud NT for us and then get paid his next contract at 28 years old in the Brandon Williams range

-- OR --

Gives us up to 2 years to find his replacement through the draft and groom him to take over once Hankins walks at the end of the contract.

I don't think Hankins will be world class as a 3-4 NT unless he develops more than he has so far in his career.

But, he would be solid/good/NFL average which is what we need right now as we find, hopefully, draftee studs over the next 2 - 3 years to fill in at the top of our defensive depth chart.

You have to have everyone be NFL average for the impact players to then be able to do their job well. We need NFL average everywhere before anyone stud we draft will shine.

Hankins will probably be NFL average at a spot that I don't think the draft will provide for. We might get a low round NT backup in the draft but not a day one starter.

Cheers,

[Maniac]

Originally Posted by sherck

I would give him a multi-year deal....say 3-year, $15 - 18m to come play NT for us.

That would give Hankins the opportunity to develop into a stud NT for us and then get paid his next contract at 28 years old in the Brandon Williams range

-- OR --

Gives us up to 2 years to find his replacement through the draft and groom him to take over once Hankins walks at the end of the contract.

I don't think Hankins will be world class as a 3-4 NT unless he develops more than he has so far in his career.

But, he would be solid/good/NFL average which is what we need right now as we find, hopefully, draftee studs over the next 2 - 3 years to fill in at the top of our defensive depth chart.

You have to have everyone be NFL average for the impact players to then be able to do their job well. We need NFL average everywhere before anyone stud we draft will shine.

Hankins will probably be NFL average at a spot that I don't think the draft will provide for. We might get a low round NT backup in the draft but not a day one starter.

Cheers,

$5m-$6m would be worth signing him. If he's insisting on $8m+, then that's too much IMO

[natagu23]

Originally Posted by sherck

I would give him a multi-year deal....say 3-year, $15 - 18m to come play NT for us.

That would give Hankins the opportunity to develop into a stud NT for us and then get paid his next contract at 28 years old in the Brandon Williams range

-- OR --

Gives us up to 2 years to find his replacement through the draft and groom him to take over once Hankins walks at the end of the contract.

I don't think Hankins will be world class as a 3-4 NT unless he develops more than he has so far in his career.

But, he would be solid/good/NFL average which is what we need right now as we find, hopefully, draftee studs over the next 2 - 3 years to fill in at the top of our defensive depth chart.

You have to have everyone be NFL average for the impact players to then be able to do their job well. We need NFL average everywhere before anyone stud we draft will shine.

Hankins will probably be NFL average at a spot that I don't think the draft will provide for. We might get a low round NT backup in the draft but not a day one starter.

Cheers,

Hankins has the potential to be a good NT.

He and "Snacks" were pretty disruptive and were a force against the run.

The thing I like about him is his ability to get pressure on the QB.

[smitty46953]

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The #Colts signed DL Al Woods, formerly of the #Titans, per @_SportsTrust. More depth & competition in Indy. 2-year contract worth $5M total