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Old 07-30-2023, 04:20 PM
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Exactly. We aren't gonna get anything better than a 2nd for a RB, sucks but that's the market, even for a potentially all time great. Nope, sit on his ass and let him squirm.
I empathize with players more than I used to. I really do. But from what I can tell, Taylor hasn’t really even given the Colts a chance to make an offer. Sounds like he said something to the effect of “I want an extension and I want it now”.

Fuck that.

He can kiss my ass.

Either suit up and play or sit out the season, as far as I’m concerned.

He’s not going to come out ahead by sitting out.
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Old 07-30-2023, 05:12 PM
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I empathize with players more than I used to. I really do. But from what I can tell, Taylor hasn’t really even given the Colts a chance to make an offer. Sounds like he said something to the effect of “I want an extension and I want it now”.

Fuck that.

He can kiss my ass.

Either suit up and play or sit out the season, as far as I’m concerned.

He’s not going to come out ahead by sitting out.
I agree, the situation for these guys is awful. Listening to a talk show the other day, RB's are the only position that play after play after play they get hit by a dude that is 100-150 LBs heavier than them. Yet year in and out, there are dudes that get 2,000 of their teams ~5,500 - 6,000 yards; one dude is accounting for 1/3 of the total output in yards- and they are getting paid some of the lowest wages for the job they perform. Their shelf life really is tiny, and that sucks. However, there is no quick fix to this legitimate issue, and trying to use your own personal contract to bend the knee of 32 multi-billionaires, man that is a dumb fucking path to choose. Cannot believe he of all people appears to be the moron that thinks he can change the NFL landscape. Wow.
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Old 07-30-2023, 06:46 PM
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Running backs situations is awful compared to who? JT is pissed because he is only going to make 4 million plus this year and is slated for 10=12 million next year. Not the 20-30 million wrs get, but awful? Not in the world I live in. He overvalues himself.
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Old 07-30-2023, 06:49 PM
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I agree, the situation for these guys is awful. Listening to a talk show the other day, RB's are the only position that play after play after play they get hit by a dude that is 100-150 LBs heavier than them. Yet year in and out, there are dudes that get 2,000 of their teams ~5,500 - 6,000 yards; one dude is accounting for 1/3 of the total output in yards- and they are getting paid some of the lowest wages for the job they perform. Their shelf life really is tiny, and that sucks. However, there is no quick fix to this legitimate issue, and trying to use your own personal contract to bend the knee of 32 multi-billionaires, man that is a dumb fucking path to choose. Cannot believe he of all people appears to be the moron that thinks he can change the NFL landscape. Wow.
I guess his agent convinced him that scorched earth was the way to go. I have no idea why a guy as smart as JT fell for it.

All he’s doing is turning the fanbase and, more importantly, Irsay against him.

I have no idea what he thinks he’s going to get from another team that he won’t get from the Colts.

No team, and I mean NONE, are going to give up assets to get him and then give him the contract he wants.

It’s insane that he apparently thinks that’s possible.

This agent has poisoned his brain, apparently.
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Old 07-30-2023, 06:53 PM
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At this point I’ll be pissed if the Colts blink.

Seriously, fuck that guy.

We paid Nelson, we paid Leonard, we paid Stewart, we paid Defo, we paid Smith, we paid Hines.

If he didn’t go nuclear, he was probably going to get an extension.

Now, it doesn’t look likely.

In fact, I hope it doesn’t happen.
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Old 07-30-2023, 08:37 PM
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At this point I’ll be pissed if the Colts blink.

Seriously, fuck that guy.

We paid Nelson, we paid Leonard, we paid Stewart, we paid Defo, we paid Smith, we paid Hines.

If he didn’t go nuclear, he was probably going to get an extension.

Now, it doesn’t look likely.

In fact, I hope it doesn’t happen.
All that stuff you are talking about with Nelson etc... I firmly believe that's the impetus behind Taylor being the one who was elected to run the closing leg for the team (if such a decision was orchestrated by the RB's). Irsay, and Ballard are KNOWN for paying their own. So in a room of dudes trying to figure out who to tag with this task- JT makes a lot of sense. Front office known for loyalty and a brand new QB with all of 13 college games under his belt, and an Oline that was at one point considered the best in the league and COULD produce a HUGE year for JT. We need to turn things around, lean on JT to run a bunch, lean on the OT returning to form, let the rookie grow into passing in pressure situations... it all makes sense.

It all makes sense up to the point that you stop and think about where the money comes from. It comes from a group of tycoons, who put a guy at the top of the pyramid that is paid a ridiculously absurd salary to increase their tycoonism. It's a rigged system JT, and for as great as you appear to be, and as bad as it appears the Colts need you in the backfield this year, you don't have the bag to challenge these dudes, you just don't. None of these owners are going to yield to this type of heavy handed tactic, none of them due to the damage it represents to the unified power structure.

Yep, if he had just gone out and busted it, Jim would have probably given him a 13-15 per contract- just because that's what he does. Instead, looks like JT's gonna need to work with his financial advisor to figure out how to spread that $4M around this year.

So fucking stupid.
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Now Chappell is reporting that the Colts are considering placing him on the non football injury list due to a back injury he suffered away from the team. Which would leave them the option of voiding his salary this season and just tolling his contract to next year.

Looks like Jim and/or Ballard are willing to play hardball. Or at least act like they will.

Holy shit. It’s stunning how fast this has fallen apart.

I’m starting to wonder if he’ll ever play another down for the Colts.
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Now Chappell is reporting that the Colts are considering placing him on the non football injury list due to a back injury he suffered away from the team. Which would leave them the option of voiding his salary this season and just tolling his contract to next year.

Looks like Jim and/or Ballard are willing to play hardball. Or at least act like they will.

Holy shit. It’s stunning how fast this has fallen apart.

I’m starting to wonder if he’ll ever play another down for the Colts.
Holy shit, nuclear option on the table. This is crazyiness.
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Now Chappell is reporting that the Colts are considering placing him on the non football injury list due to a back injury he suffered away from the team. Which would leave them the option of voiding his salary this season and just tolling his contract to next year.

Looks like Jim and/or Ballard are willing to play hardball. Or at least act like they will.

Holy shit. It’s stunning how fast this has fallen apart.

I’m starting to wonder if he’ll ever play another down for the Colts.
Let him rot on the bench and ruin his career like Le'Veon Bell did. I've always liked Taylor, and he's good, but he isn't as good as Bell was. Fuck him. Can Moss catch and block? New HC and OC, new offense, new RB in a new role. We move on, Taylor sits and wastes a year. Good luck with that.
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