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Old 03-28-2023, 06:55 AM
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I wonder if they've ever considered combining a partially guaranteed salary with an insurance policy against injuries resulting in loss of playing time. The player still gets his money, but his non-playing salary is paid by the policy and doesn't count against the cap.
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I wonder if they've ever considered combining a partially guaranteed salary with an insurance policy against injuries resulting in loss of playing time. The player still gets his money, but his non-playing salary is paid by the policy and doesn't count against the cap.
I cant give you the legal text, but I think thats not going to work. I believe the bonus money promised is fully funded. Like a trust fund.

The Haslams are idiots. They have made a terrible deal with Watson. They have made a sex predator their biggest liability. And that big ass contract will prevent them from trading him. Now they have set the bar for every other owner, this is what all other Qbs are going to demand.

The crazy part of this is that Running Qbs have a very short careers. In the last 30 years the best Qbs, with long playing careers have been the ones stay in the pocket and distribute the ball. Manning, Brees, and that cheater from NE.
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https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...eed-contracts/

Jim Irsay on Lamar Jackson: Money not a problem, I don’t like fully guaranteed contracts
Posted by Michael David Smith on March 28, 2023, 7:33 AM EDT

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The money free agent quarterback Lamar Jackson is asking for is not too much for the Colts. But the guarantees on his contract might be.

That’s the word from Colts owner Jim Irsay, who told reporters that the Colts are willing to pay Jackson a lot, but not to give him a fully guaranteed contract.



Irsay told Stephen Holder of ESPN that “the money is not a problem,” but Irsay also told Zak Keefer of TheAthletic.com that “I do not believe in fully-guaranteed contracts.”

The precise nature of Jackson’s demands is not known, but the fully guaranteed five-year, $230 million contract that Deshaun Watson got from the Browns a year ago is believed to be in the neighborhood of what Jackson wants.

Irsay also indicated that the draft pick compensation the Colts would have to give the Ravens might be too much. If the Colts signed Jackson to an offer sheet and the Ravens didn’t match it, the Colts would get Jackson and the Ravens would get the Colts’ next two first-round draft picks. It’s also possible that the Colts and Ravens could agree to some other form of compensation, but the Ravens would surely demand a significant trade offer.

And so the Colts don’t seem to be close to landing Jackson. But at a time when most of the league is oddly uninterested in a 26-year-old former NFL MVP, Irsay is at least willing to consider making an offer.
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The Colts would win the division with Jackson....I don't know, it is tempting. Not sure our defense is good enough to win the AFC, even with Jackson?
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I cant give you the legal text, but I think thats not going to work. I believe the bonus money promised is fully funded. Like a trust fund.

The Haslams are idiots. They have made a terrible deal with Watson. They have made a sex predator their biggest liability. And that big ass contract will prevent them from trading him. Now they have set the bar for every other owner, this is what all other Qbs are going to demand.

The crazy part of this is that Running Qbs have a very short careers. In the last 30 years the best Qbs, with long playing careers have been the ones stay in the pocket and distribute the ball. Manning, Brees, and that cheater from NE.
QB injuries overwhelmingly occur in the pocket. Guys actually take punishment better on the run, they usually evade or brace for contact. It’s the contact they don’t see coming while throwing that is the killer. Running QBs are nothing new, but guys have to learn to become pocket passers because the legs wear down over time. Not all can.
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QB injuries overwhelmingly occur in the pocket. Guys actually take punishment better on the run, they usually evade or brace for contact. It’s the contact they don’t see coming while throwing that is the killer. Running QBs are nothing new, but guys have to learn to become pocket passers because the legs wear down over time. Not all can.
https://www.pro-football-reference.c...J/JackLa00.htm

Go look at his QBR and turnovers. He had one really good year. The last two years are not inspiring.
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Go look at his QBR and turnovers. He had one really good year. The last two years are not inspiring.
I'm talking in general. One of the Colts writers put out an article about it. Its basically a misconception that running QBs get hurt running when most injuries happen inside the pocket.
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I'm talking in general. One of the Colts writers put out an article about it. Its basically a misconception that running QBs get hurt running when most injuries happen inside the pocket.
According to ESPN, he’s been hit more often in the last few years than any other QB
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He’s 45-16 as a starter and rarely gets blown out

His best receiver was Brown

On the Colts he makes this team an instant contender in the AFC
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According to ESPN, he’s been hit more often in the last few years than any other QB
That indicates a lack of protection or holding the ball till the last second.
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