So....thoughts of trading up for the #1 pick?

[ChoppedWood]

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

I would stay put. Trading up to 1 would likely cost a 2024 1st and that will be a talented draft and I don't want to lose a 1st in that draft.

Nightmare scenario is:

Bears trade out and a QB gone.
Houston takes QB.
Cards decide they want a better thrower or trade out and a QB is taken.

That leaves us with Anderson or Carter. Trade down and take a QB later or take Richardson.

One of the top three should be there. Hopefully, 2 of them will be.

In that scenario, stay put and take Carter. Dude is a phenom. we will suck horribly next year, should be able to get # 1 or 2 picks without really having to try very hard. Williams or Maye are better than anyone in this draft by a wide margin.

[ChoppedWood]

Originally Posted by ChoppedWood

In that scenario, stay put and take Carter. Dude is a phenom. we will suck horribly next year, should be able to get # 1 or 2 picks without really having to try very hard. Williams or Maye are better than anyone in this draft by a wide margin.

Plus that would all but guarantee that Ballard will finally be gone, which automatically probably gets us 3 wins the following season.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by ChaosTheory

You seem to like Stroud to the point of taking him high even in another, let's say, less questionable year of QBs.

So as a Stroud advocate, why do you think (trustworthy) guys would rate him below Young even despite his small size? Which is a significant concern.

There's some phantom concern about him not being able to improvise or create plays, and "folding under pressure". You can really watch any of his games to debunk these myths, but the Georgia game in particular does it very well.

Also, yes, I am pretty high on Stroud. He grades pretty closely to another former Ohio State QB, Joe Burrow, in my opinion.

[njcoltfan]

Originally Posted by CletusPyle

Tom Brady was a 6th round QB....nuff said!

Unitas was a 9th round pick....nuff said !!! Fuck that pussy Brady !!

[Oldcolt]

Originally Posted by njcoltfan

Unitas was a 9th round pick....nuff said !!! Fuck that pussy Brady !!

Who was cut and picked up by the Colts as a free agent. Was in the 1950's though.

[Coltsalr]

I will say that as much as Mac Jones/Tua appears to be scaring people off Bryce Young due to the Alabama factor that the same could absolutely apply with Stroud with Fields/Haskins.

The idea that these guys had elite weapons that could run circles around inferior competition absolutely has merit.

I do believe that Bryce Young has a superior ability to create offense where nothing is there (that I haven’t seen from Stroud and certainly not from Richardson/Levis). Again, please don’t read this as Bryce Young love. I don’t love the guy but he IS the highest on my board and I do want the Colts to trade up what it takes to get him and put him in alongside Harbaugh and see what happens.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by Coltsalr

I will say that as much as Mac Jones/Tua appears to be scaring people off Bryce Young due to the Alabama factor that the same could absolutely apply with Stroud with Fields/Haskins.

The idea that these guys had elite weapons that could run circles around inferior competition absolutely has merit.

I do believe that Bryce Young has a superior ability to create offense where nothing is there (that I haven’t seen from Stroud and certainly not from Richardson/Levis). Again, please don’t read this as Bryce Young love. I don’t love the guy but he IS the highest on my board and I do want the Colts to trade up what it takes to get him and put him in alongside Harbaugh and see what happens.

The school pedigree argument in the current era of football has no merit. Mahomes was from Texas Tech. Allen was from Wyoming. Joe Burrow was from LSU via Ohio State. Herbert was from Oregon. None of these schools has a particularly good history of developing QBs and sending them to the NFL.

As far as his ability to create, that (and the size) is where my Russell Wilson comp for him comes from. Young creates in a similar fashion to Russell Wilson. When his offense gets off schedule, he will start using his athleticism to run around and gain yardage on the ground, occasionally also using it to escape pressure and make insane throws few other QBs could make.

I disagree with your opinion on Stroud and his ability to create. He absolutely has incredible athleticism, but the way he tends to use it to create is similar to Aaron Rodgers. He'll escape pressure and roll out, but whether he rolls left or right, he almost constantly has his eyes downfield looking to make plays in the passing game rather than taking off running with the ball. This often results in him getting unexpected completions, first downs, and touchdowns that are entirely the result of him escaping pressure and buying time. Watch the first TD in the Georgia game for a perfect example of this. I don't understand where this argument that Stroud can't improvise or create comes from, but it's completely inaccurate.

As a side note, I don't know where this Parris Johnson is a top 15 pick talk comes from? He must be like 19 years old or something, because on film, he grades out as a low Day 2 to high Day 3 pick. He was terrible at protecting Stroud's blindside.

[Dewey 5]

Originally Posted by Coltsalr

I will say that as much as Mac Jones/Tua appears to be scaring people off Bryce Young due to the Alabama factor that the same could absolutely apply with Stroud with Fields/Haskins.

The idea that these guys had elite weapons that could run circles around inferior competition absolutely has merit.

I do believe that Bryce Young has a superior ability to create offense where nothing is there (that I haven’t seen from Stroud and certainly not from Richardson/Levis). Again, please don’t read this as Bryce Young love. I don’t love the guy but he IS the highest on my board and I do want the Colts to trade up what it takes to get him and put him in alongside Harbaugh and see what happens.

People need to stop with the Harbaugh talk. He’s not coming to Indy. Let it go & move on.

[Brylok]

Originally Posted by Dewey 5

People need to stop with the Harbaugh talk. He’s not coming to Indy. Let it go & move on.

Yep, and Bryce Young, too. You want another Tua? Draft the 5'10" less than 200 pounds QB. Johnny Manziel was bigger than that, and he got squished.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by Brylok

Yep, and Bryce Young, too. You want another Tua? Draft the 5'10" less than 200 pounds QB. Johnny Manziel was bigger than that, and he got squished.

Johnny Manziel's problem wasn't his size, it was that he put zero effort into becoming a starting caliber NFL QB.