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Old 11-10-2022, 01:27 PM
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I can think of a couple of somewhat similar circumstances, albeit not head coaching situations. Unfortunately, neither worked out particularly well

Mike Mayock - Took over the Raiders GM position several seasons ago after a long broadcasting career. Fired earlier this year.

Bo Schembechler - Became president of MLB's Detroit Tigers in 1990, after a long college football coaching career. Fired two years later.

Not sure what all of this means, other than there have been a few situations where pro teams have brought in outsiders into important positions without any direct prior experience.
Yeah, I remember a few inexperienced hires. I think what distinguishes our circumstance is that this is A.) a mid-season interim situation and B.) this is a head coach who is more directly involved with the players, coaches, staff rather than a FO guy. Four days before he'll lead an NFL team on the sidelines, he still hadn't met everybody. It's funny to think about.

Hoping for the best short and long term. But still being realistic about how goofy this whole thing is.
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Yes I would. I'm not talking giving either of them full control right now. But eventually they are going to have to learn to run this business.
or they could just sell it
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Yeah, it has happened more often for GM roles.

Matt Millen is another example for GM's.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Millen
Yep, excellent GM example.
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... Also the problem with hiring popular former players is fans hate them as coach and forget the great player they were.
Yep. I've been though this since 2018. I hope Jeff doesn't ruin his legacy, but it's a risk. At least it's only eight games and not an entire season or two. It's a huge risk if he's hired full time next season.
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I worry that under saturday they will look marginally better and get 2 wins, 1 being the last game against the texans who suck and will be looking to lock up the first pick. This will inspire irsay to hire saturday as full HC (after the obligitory interviews) and we will be mediocre or suck for the next several years.
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Old 11-10-2022, 06:27 PM
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Take this with a huge grain of salt because it is written by Jason La Canfora who is not always the most reliable source of info (I think at times that he will write about rumors he hears without taking much time to verify them).

However, he is reporting the Colts locker room is not happy - both the remaining coaching staff and players.

Lots of players want out now.

That the reason why Parks Frazier is the play caller is because other members of the staff turned down the job.

Jeff Saturday may have his work cut out for him in winning over the locker room.

Link to article with a few excerpts below:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...aturday-colts/

Washington Post? LOL, wonder if Daniel Snyder wrote this article?
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Take this with a huge grain of salt because it is written by Jason La Canfora who is not always the most reliable source of info (I think at times that he will write about rumors he hears without taking much time to verify them).

However, he is reporting the Colts locker room is not happy - both the remaining coaching staff and players.

Lots of players want out now.

That the reason why Parks Frazier is the play caller is because other members of the staff turned down the job.

Jeff Saturday may have his work cut out for him in winning over the locker room.

Link to article with a few excerpts below:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...aturday-colts/
If the remaining players or coaches are pissed about what has happened, they need to go look in a mirror, because they are a big part of this failure.

Nelson said it, his poor play was part of of the total team failure. Frank couldnt play for them. If anyone can get this O line sorted out, Saturday may have the best skills to coach them up and ass kick some success out of them
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More and more I think this is a 2 fold thing.

1- Saturday's primary role- report back to Irsay which dudes want to play football and which dudes just care about the cash. Those on the cash end of that report, see ya at the end of the season.

2- Saturday auditioning for Ballard's job. I don't think there's any chance Ballard is back so if Saturday demonstrates he can work the personnel end of this- he moves to GM and Jim goes after some high profile coach and it would not surprise me if Harbaugh's name emerges as a front runner. I think Jim is going to go full in on getting more of an old school, lunch pale persona in place. F-k analytics, f-k gimmicks, tape it up and go out there and play with heart. I think that's what he wants to get back to his team.
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I think Jim is going to go full in on getting more of an old school, lunch pale persona in place. F-k analytics, f-k gimmicks, tape it up and go out there and play with heart. I think that's what he wants to get back to his team.
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More and more I think this is a 2 fold thing.

1- Saturday's primary role- report back to Irsay which dudes want to play football and which dudes just care about the cash. Those on the cash end of that report, see ya at the end of the season.

2- Saturday auditioning for Ballard's job. I don't think there's any chance Ballard is back so if Saturday demonstrates he can work the personnel end of this- he moves to GM and Jim goes after some high profile coach and it would not surprise me if Harbaugh's name emerges as a front runner. I think Jim is going to go full in on getting more of an old school, lunch pale persona in place. F-k analytics, f-k gimmicks, tape it up and go out there and play with heart. I think that's what he wants to get back to his team.
I agree about Saturday being more a GM type than a coach, the same thing did cross my mind. I know a lot of people don't like Harbaugh, personally I love the guy and would love to see him come to Indy...unfortunately he seems pretty happy at Michigan now!
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