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[Colts And Orioles]

Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles

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The Titans games, to a certain degree, was unlucky ...... but the loss to the Jaguars was not unlucky, that was a flat-out beatdown.

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm

And the loss to the Tits wasn't unlucky either. We turned the ball over 3 times. They turned it over 0.

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I said that it was unlucky to a certain extent. The Colts' turnover in the 4th quarter when they had driven deep into the opponents' territory was somewhat unlucky, particularly because it was made by the otherwise sure-handed Jonathan Taylor ...... it was his only fumble in 81 carries so far this season, and it was only the 4th fumble that he had lost in 645 carries over his career.

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[IndyNorm]

Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles

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I said that it was unlucky to a certain extent. The Colts' turnover in the 4th quarter when they had driven deep into the opponents' territory was somewhat unlucky, particularly because it was made by the otherwise sure-handed Jonathan Taylor ...... it was his only fumble in 81 carries so far this season, and it was only the 4th fumble that he had lost in 645 carries over his career.

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I was more directing it towards CletusPyle who said it was an unlucky win to begin with, so I probably should have quoted him instead.

I hear what you're saying, but if you're -3 in turnovers you're in all likelihood going to lose unless you're significantly better than the other team. Which at this point we probably can't say that about the Colts vs. any team in the league.

[CletusPyle]

Originally Posted by IndyNorm

I was more directing it towards CletusPyle who said it was an unlucky win to begin with, so I probably should have quoted him instead.

I hear what you're saying, but if you're -3 in turnovers you're in all likelihood going to lose unless you're significantly better than the other team. Which at this point we probably can't say that about the Colts vs. any team in the league.

Yep, my post pretty much sucked, I was trying to find something positive to say, I do think if Taylor doesn't fumble we would have scored, but no guarantee would would have won the game. We are probably lucky to not be 0-5!

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Also, while the Colts were certainly lucky in their win over the Broncos, I don't think that they were lucky in their win against the Chiefs ...... the defense played a damned good game, and the offense played reasonably well against a team that has had one of the best defenses in the NFL since the 2nd half of the 2021 season.

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[IndyNorm]

Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles

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Also, while the Colts were certainly lucky in their win over the Broncos, I don't think that they were lucky in their win against the Chiefs ...... the defense played a damned good game, and the offense played reasonably well against one of the best defenses in the NFL.

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I disagree. While the D did play well, KC made some huge unforced errors that led to us beating them: muffed punt inside their 5, fake FG attempt on 4th and 11 from our 24, Missed 34 yard FG, and of course the super dumbass penalty by Jones. Any of those self inflicted wounds don't happen then we don't win.

[Colts And Orioles]

Originally Posted by ukcolt

As truly awful as the Colts have been, I find it hard to believe we can continue to be this bad going forward. l It is not as if the Colts haven't been in this scenario in recent years, and have then managed to have some success later in the year.

The rest of the NFL is also incredibly up and down ...... there is no dominant team, and everyone is beating each other. Even the Eagles, the only unbeaten team left, looked far from invincible in their nail-biting win over the Cardinals yesterday.

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In 2018, the Colts started out the season 1-5 ...... they had just lost to the lowly Jets, who wound up going 3-12 that season in their other 15 games.


https://www.jt-sw.com/football/pro/r...Teams/2018-ind


The Colts then won 9 out of their next 10 games to finish at 10-6, then upset the favored Houston Texans in the playoffs on their homefield in southeastern Texas. They then lost in the divisional playoffs to the Chiefs, who came within an offsides penalty of making it to the Super Bowl before losing in overtime to the Patriots in the AFC championship game.

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[Colts And Orioles]

Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles

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In 2018, the Colts started out the season 1-5 ...... they had just lost to the lowly Jets, who wound up going 3-12 that season in their other 15 games.


https://www.jt-sw.com/football/pro/r...Teams/2018-ind


The Colts then won 9 out of their next 10 games to finish at 10-6, then upset the favored Houston Texans in the playoffs on their homefield in southeastern Texas. They then lost in the divisional playoffs to the Chiefs, who came within an offsides penalty of making it to the Super Bowl before losing in overtime to the Patriots in the AFC championship game.

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Additionally, last year in 2021 the Colts started the season at 1-4 ...... they then went 8-2 over their next 10 games before shitting the bed in the final 2 games of the season against the Raiders and the Jaguars.


https://www.jt-sw.com/football/pro/r...Teams/2021-ind

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[HoosierinFL]

yes starting the season in weak form is a pattern for Reich's teams. Going on a mid-season run is another pattern. Falling flat at the end is part of that pattern.

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Originally Posted by HoosierinFL

Yes, starting the season in weak form is a pattern for Reich's teams. Going on a mid-season run is another pattern. Falling flat at the end is part of that pattern.

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Starting badly has not just been a staple of the Frank Reich era.

Chuck Pagano coached the team for 6 seasons, between 2012 and 2017.

The only season in which Pagano's Colts started well was in 2013.

In the other 5 seasons, the Colts ......



2012: ) Started 2-3 ...... Went 9-2 the rest of the way. ) *


2014: ) Started 0-2 ...... Went 11-3 the rest of the way.


2015: ) Started 3-5 ...... Went 5-3 the rest of the way.


2016: ) Started 3-5 ...... Went 5-3 the rest of the way.


2017: ) Started badly ...... Remained bad for the entire season, finishing at 4-12 overall.


* ) First 4 Games under Chuck Pagano, Last 12 games under Bruce Arians

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[Hoopsdoc]

Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles

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In 2018, the Colts started out the season 1-5 ...... they had just lost to the lowly Jets, who wound up going 3-12 that season in their other 15 games.


https://www.jt-sw.com/football/pro/r...Teams/2018-ind


The Colts then won 9 out of their next 10 games to finish at 10-6, then upset the favored Houston Texans in the playoffs on their homefield in southeastern Texas. They then lost in the divisional playoffs to the Chiefs, who came within an offsides penalty of making it to the Super Bowl before losing in overtime to the Patriots in the AFC championship game.

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The difference is none of those offenses were as bad as this one. This one is the worst in the league.

They won’t go from worst in the league to good enough to make the playoffs during the course of the season.

This will have to be addressed in the off-season. I just don’t see any way they can turn this around.