POLL- Lose to Jags, should Frank be fired?

[Colts And Orioles]

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If the Colts do or don't make the playoffs, it will have little to do with the outcome of this game, and much more to do with the remaining 15 games afterward ...... it is so early in the season, and the Colts have been one of the weirdest, strangest teams in the NFL over the past few years, beating teams like the Super Bowl champion Chiefs on their home-field in Kansas City with Jacoby Brissett at quarterback, and repeatedly shitting the bed against the Jaguars in Florida with the likes of Andrew Luck and Philip Rivers at quarterback.

I'll be pissed if we once again play like crap against one of the crappiest teams in the NFL and lose there for the 8th consecutive time, but I'll be right back on the Matt Ryan/Jonathan Taylor/Michael Pittman Jr. bandwagon if we win 4 out of our next 5 games afterward.

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[ChaosTheory]

It's too late. We should have fired the entire regime after they let Mitch Trubisky sign with the Steeers, remember?

[JAFF]

Originally Posted by ChaosTheory

It's too late. We should have fired the entire regime after they let Mitch Trubisky sign with the Steeers, remember?

Doh!

[CletusPyle]

Originally Posted by ChaosTheory

It's too late. We should have fired the entire regime after they let Mitch Trubisky sign with the Steeers, remember?

I also thought they should have pursued Trubisky, but when they got Ryan I thought maybe that was the better option. I still think it might be but Trubisky could have potentially have been the long term solution. Time will tell!

[TheMugwump]

Originally Posted by CletusPyle

I also thought they should have pursued Trubisky, but when they got Ryan I thought maybe that was the better option. I still think it might be but Trubisky could have potentially have been the long term solution. Time will tell!

I took the ChaosTheory post as a joke.

No way would I take Mitchell Trubisky over Matt Ryan, in any universe, at any time.

If this team doesn't make the playoffs, it won't be because of Ryan's play, or Reich's coaching, or the kicking game.

The only reason they miss the playoffs is injuries (knocking wood as I type this). If they stay mostly healthy, they walk to a playoff spot.

And I am a little surprised at the extreme over-reactions to a first-week loss in here. Yeah, it's been ten billion years since this team won an opener. They are tied for first in the division in spite of that, so last week and all the mistakes on the field and on the sidelines means almost nothing. Add to that the trend of Reich-coached teams to improve consistently as the season moves forward, and there is a ton to be optimistic about here.

Plus, Carson Wentz is no longer the QB.

Guys, the sky is not falling. This is by far the best team in the AFC South.

R-E-L-A-X

[ChaosTheory]

Originally Posted by TheMugwump

I took the ChaosTheory post as a joke.

That's true. Sorry, Cletus. I was making the point that impulsive thinking leads to bad takes.

To address it seriously... a coaching change after two weeks is a complete non-starter in my eyes. It's completely unrealistic given the patient nature of the FO anyway because it would be rash and unwarranted.

As for whether they should consider firing Reich if the fail to make the playoffs... I mean, ok, sure they should. But how enlightening is that? If Andy Reid failed to lead the Chiefs to the playoffs this year, wouldn't people say the same thing?

Goes for any team coming in with expectations this year. Just doesn't strike me as a meaningful stance to take.

[IndyNorm]

Originally Posted by ChaosTheory

That's true. Sorry, Cletus. I was making the point that impulsive thinking leads to bad takes.

To address it seriously... a coaching change after two weeks is a complete non-starter in my eyes. It's completely unrealistic given the patient nature of the FO anyway because it would be rash and unwarranted.

As for whether they should consider firing Reich if the fail to make the playoffs... I mean, ok, sure they should. But how enlightening is that? If Andy Reid failed to lead the Chiefs to the playoffs this year, wouldn't people say the same thing?

Goes for any team coming in with expectations this year. Just doesn't strike me as a meaningful stance to take.

What a ricockulous comparison. If Reich had anywhere near Reid's career success (or even Reid's success his first 4 years in the league) we wouldn't be talking about getting rid of him.

[ChaosTheory]

Originally Posted by IndyNorm

What a ricockulous comparison. If Reich had anywhere near Reid's career success (or even Reid's success his first 4 years in the league) we wouldn't be talking about getting rid of him.

Look, it's not a comparison. There is no comparison between Reid and Reich. Reid has been a model of consistency, a HOF'er. Although, it's worth pointing out that in the past 23 seasons, Reid has only had 4 starting QB's: McNabb (10), Vick (3), Smith (5), and Mahomes (5). Meanwhile, Reich has had 5 consecutive new starters in each of his 5 seasons. I know we like to speak in platitudes and all... but that's worth something.

But that's not the point. Reid has had HOF levels of success.

The point is the fans' impulsive reactions. Reid is an absurd example... to make a point. If KC failed to make the playoffs this year while being pegged by most as the best or second-best team in the AFC, people would lose their fucking minds and demand blood. You know they would. Would you?

In fact... I'm willing to bet there are plenty of ChoppedWood-minded KC fans that are already clamoring to get rid of Reid because they say he's only won the Super Bowl once in 23 years and that's only because Mahomes is a generational QB. Say every other year he choked, that TB crushed them in the SB, that they couldn't beat the upstart Bengals, and now they're going in the wrong direction, wasting Mahomes' prime, gets too cute, thinks he's so smart, etc.

Come on, you know fans do that kind of shit.

[CletusPyle]

Originally Posted by ChaosTheory

That's true. Sorry, Cletus. I was making the point that impulsive thinking leads to bad takes.

To address it seriously... a coaching change after two weeks is a complete non-starter in my eyes. It's completely unrealistic given the patient nature of the FO anyway because it would be rash and unwarranted.

As for whether they should consider firing Reich if the fail to make the playoffs... I mean, ok, sure they should. But how enlightening is that? If Andy Reid failed to lead the Chiefs to the playoffs this year, wouldn't people say the same thing?

Goes for any team coming in with expectations this year. Just doesn't strike me as a meaningful stance to take.

Well, it's not the first time I've stepped in it. I was raised a Bears fan and still have a soft spot for them. I never really felt Trubisky got a fair shot in Chicago. There were times that he looked like one of the best young prospects in the league, but there was never a lot of talent on any of those Bears teams and things went sour. I still believe he has a chance to be really good, he is only 28 years old. Of course, at the time I was pushing for Trubisky I had no idea that Ryan would be available.

[IndyNorm]

Originally Posted by TheMugwump

I took the ChaosTheory post as a joke.

No way would I take Mitchell Trubisky over Matt Ryan, in any universe, at any time.

If this team doesn't make the playoffs, it won't be because of Ryan's play, or Reich's coaching, or the kicking game.

The only reason they miss the playoffs is injuries (knocking wood as I type this). If they stay mostly healthy, they walk to a playoff spot.

And I am a little surprised at the extreme over-reactions to a first-week loss in here. Yeah, it's been ten billion years since this team won an opener. They are tied for first in the division in spite of that, so last week and all the mistakes on the field and on the sidelines means almost nothing. Add to that the trend of Reich-coached teams to improve consistently as the season moves forward, and there is a ton to be optimistic about here.

Plus, Carson Wentz is no longer the QB.

Guys, the sky is not falling. This is by far the best team in the AFC South.

R-E-L-A-X

Maybe on paper. They sure as shit didn't look anything like that on Sunday.