Shit gets real for Donnie

[JAFF]

Jan. 6 hearings are flawed — but Republicans can’t ignore Trump’s bad behavior

https://nypost.com/2022/06/30/jan-6-...snt-excusable/

Is the Republican party starting to move past Donald Trump? A poll published this week showed that the former president remains the favorite candidate of 53% of Republican voters. But his numbers are slipping, and other candidates are on the rise.

Most noticeable is Ron DeSantis. The same poll showed almost a quarter of Republican voters putting the Florida governor up as their favored nominee. And his numbers are only rising, while Trump’s are only falling. Several polls in recent weeks have even shown DeSantis pulling ahead of Trump.

One reason is obvious. The conclusion that the Jan. 6 hearings are arriving at.

Like a lot of people, I thought at the start of the hearings that the whole thing was little more than partisan political theater. It still seems pretty disgraceful that one political side can effectively carry out a political trial of the other. The Republicans have not solicited a couple of Democrats to form a committee looking into the violence and looting across America in the summer of 2020. Or tried to find which Democrat politicians and media should take responsibility for whipping that along.

Cassidy Hutchinson
Cassidy Hutchinson accused Trump of trying to take the wheel from Secret Service agents who would not take him to the Capitol on Jan. 6.
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So you might say that of course the committee was going to find Donald Trump guilty. If that had been all that happened then Republicans might have been able to ignore it.

But what is very hard to ignore is the evidence that has come out from those closest to Trump — including his advisers and family. Every day of the hearings we have been able to learn exactly what the president was doing during those crucial days and hours.

Without the hearings we would not have known that Trump had been told by his closest advisers that he had lost the election and that there was no way around that. Without the hearings we might not have known how Trump and his family used the money they demanded from supporters to help “stop the steal.”

Liz Cheney
The investigation into the Jan. 6 riot has not been the political theater many expected it to be.
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We would not have known that Ivanka Trump heard her father on the phone telling Vice President Pence he was a “p—y” for not helping to overturn the election results.

Or that Trump was informed that some of his supporters were arriving in the capital with weapons on Jan. 6 but shrugged it off saying “They´re not here to hurt me.”

We wouldn’t have known that Trump sent out his tweet attacking Pence when he had already been told that violence had erupted at the Capitol. Or that he would respond to news that some protestors were chanting “Hang Mike Pence” by saying Pence “deserves” it. Far from being the partisan nothing-burger that some of us expected, every day of hearings has details that would shock a chronicler of the last days of Rome.

This week’s revelation that Trump had wanted to join the crowd as they marched on the Capitol was bad enough. The news that he allegedly made a lunge for the steering wheel of the presidential limo when he was told he was being returned to the White House not the Capitol is a detail that his worst critics could not have dreamed up. It may be a hotly contested claim, but nobody is denying he wanted to join the crowd.

Jan. 6 riot
Trump verbally attacked Vice President Mike Pence for not overturning the election.
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We now know how Trump refused to leave office, ignored everyone telling him he had lost, whipped up a conspiracy theory, drew a crowd to the Capitol and then encouraged some of them to behave utterly shamefully.

Supporters of Trump often tell me that he is the right’s best fighter — and that in order to win an election you have to send your best fighter into the ring. But the truth is that at this stage Trump is a deeply wounded fighter, who is wounding his own side while giving gift after gift to their opponents. He ignored the most basic foundations of democracy, including respecting election results and ensuring the peaceful handover of power. If that is not disqualifying it is hard to know what is.

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It would be understandable for Republicans to try to ignore what has come out. But it would also be disastrous. For while die-hard loyalists of Trump may have wanted to look away, the rest of the country has not.

In the coming months I would expect more and more Republicans voters to quietly come to the conclusion that this deeply tainted man cannot be their candidate. They will then begin cohering around a candidate who can thank Trump for what good things he did and then take it from there.

That may be little comfort for Republicans, so let me at least offer one bit of good news. Unlike the Democrats, the Republicans have a good bench. Their front-runners aren’t all in their eighties. They’re successful — even popular.


The Republicans aren´t finished. But the Donald Trump era surely must be.

[CletusPyle]

https://rumble.com/v1ai0bm-breaking-...n-jan-6th.html

[JAFF]

You wanted trump paper news, here it is

https://nypost.com/2022/06/10/trump-...uture-instead/

. The Jan. 6 Commission is a Democratic campaign ad, a thinly veiled partisan exercise — aired in primetime, with the cooperation of a liberal press — to bolster a failed Joe Biden presidency.

But rather than ignore it or look to the future, Donald Trump, the King Lear of Mar-a-Lago, decided to tweet — er, Truth — yet another statement confirming that he refuses to accept reality. “January 6th was not simply a protest,” he wrote, “it represented the greatest movement in the history of our Country to Make America Great Again.”

It wasn’t, of course. It was a national shame. One that neither Democrats nor Trump can stop obsessing over. It’s time for Republicans to move on.

This isn’t 2016, when the country was sleepwalking toward a Hillary Clinton coronation, and Trump was the only one pugnacious enough to say it doesn’t have to be this way.

He refused to accept that the southern border should be lawless and that China should be allowed to steal jobs. He knew, unapologetically, that the economy flourished under low taxes and little government interference. He pulled off one of the most jaw-dropping upsets in American political history, and — though the liberal media will never admit it — oversaw a term of mostly peace and prosperity.

And this:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-evi...ce-11654896141

The headline is damning

The Evidence of the Jan. 6 Committee
It’s a reminder of the violence and how Trump betrayed his supporters.

That would be you Spike

[Spike]

Originally Posted by JAFF

You wanted trump paper news, here it is

https://nypost.com/2022/06/10/trump-...uture-instead/



And this:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-evi...ce-11654896141

The headline is damning

The Evidence of the Jan. 6 Committee
It’s a reminder of the violence and how Trump betrayed his supporters.

That would be you Spike

I don't give a shit about January 6th, it means absolutely nothing to me. There are more pressing issues in America right now than rehashing the 1/6 bullshit ad nauseam.

[JAFF]

Originally Posted by Spike

I don't give a shit about January 6th, it means absolutely nothing to me. There are more pressing issues in America right now than rehashing the 1/6 bullshit ad nauseam.

Yeah, because you got conned by the biggest bullshitter in the last 40 years. He is a wannabe mob boss. Wake the fuck up. He is a traitor to the republic. Do you know what he and putin talked about in private. Bitch all you want about biden, he never met with a criminal with no one else in the room

A failed coup, to overturn a national election? That doesnt interest you?

[omahacolt]

Originally Posted by Spike

I don't give a shit about January 6th, it means absolutely nothing to me. There are more pressing issues in America right now than rehashing the 1/6 bullshit ad nauseam.

an attempted overthrow of the government should concern you at least a tad. unless you are into that sort of thing

[rcubed]

It looks like Newsom is trying to set himself up, possibly to run against DeSantis at some point in the future.

There’s also Buttigieg but he is still on the young side and it would be interesting to see how general america handles the gay aspect.

[Lov2fish]

Originally Posted by rcubed

It looks like Newsom is trying to set himself up, possibly to run against DeSantis at some point in the future.

There’s also Buttigieg but he is still on the young side and it would be interesting to see how general america handles the gay aspect.

Newsome is way to far left to ever be a serious contender outside the west coast. I'm ok with Pete being gay if his policies were better I don't think his sexual preference would hurt him, his project policies will (From 2020 primaries)

[rcubed]

Originally Posted by Lov2fish

Newsome is way to far left to ever be a serious contender outside the west coast. I'm ok with Pete being gay if his policies were better I don't think his sexual preference would hurt him, his project policies will (From 2020 primaries)

Agree on newsom. There are a lot of us Californians that dont even like him.

Not so sure regarding pete. I think there are still too many people that would vote against him because he is gay.

[Lov2fish]

Originally Posted by rcubed

Agree on newsom. There are a lot of us Californians that dont even like him.

Not so sure regarding pete. I think there are still too many people that would vote against him because he is gay.

I would think we have come further as a country. If Pete would move closer to center he would be a contender against Desantis. Not sure he could beat him. I'm not sure anyone could at this point. He doesn't carry excessive baggage, he watched and learned what Trump did wrong. Mid terms will tell a lot about how the voters are leaning.