Frank reich is horrible

[rm1369]

Originally Posted by apballin

All the names you mentioned have also been highly PAID so I’m beginning to wonder if that’s what they truly trying to avoid after JT has a monster year

I’d say it’s more likely they are honest when they say they want a balanced offense. They are 14th in the league for run play percentage. Slightly on the run side of middle of the league. I’d like to see them a little higher, but they are nowhere near as pass happy as some would suggest.

And Irsay has never had an issue paying people. Taylor is 3rd in the league for total yards. He’s behind Henry and Kupp, with Henry now hurt. If they are trying to avoid paying him 2 years from now they aren’t doing a great job. I do think they’d have an issue with him averaging 29.6 touches a game like Henry though. Of course I agree with them.

[MeSayDayo]

Originally Posted by rm1369

I’d say it’s more likely they are honest when they say they want a balanced offense. They are 14th in the league for run play percentage. Slightly on the run side of middle of the league. I’d like to see them a little higher, but they are nowhere near as pass happy as some would suggest.

And Irsay has never had an issue paying people. Taylor is 3rd in the league for total yards. He’s behind Henry and Kupp, with Henry now hurt. If they are trying to avoid paying him 2 years from now they aren’t doing a great job. I do think they’d have an issue with him averaging 29.6 touches a game like Henry though. Of course I agree with them.

It's not so much that people are upset with us being overtly pass happy. It is WHEN we are choosing to be pass happy, and putting the ball in a mistake prone Wentz when we should be pounding away with JT.

On his current usage (which we all feel is underutilized), Taylor is on pace for 250 + carries, 1300 + rushing, 12 + TDs rushing, approx. 45 catches (55 targets) for 500 + yards and maybe 3 more receiving TDs.

In my humble opinion, a back that nears 2000 all purpose yards is being utilized just fine. In fact, if he reaches those numbers while avoiding injury (knock on wood), then we have done even better with him.

Pass and Run split is fine. But we need to start running Taylor when we should be (and when the other team thinks we will) because its working regardless and it sets up the pass for Carson to have much clearer throwing lanes.

Either way our season is down the shitter anyway and we need to find a cleanup foot surgery for Wentz around Week 12. I would also consider moving Big Q by days end as well, because we could probably get a 1st for him and use it in an area of greater need. I love Q, but he has proven to be playing an expendable position.

[rm1369]

Originally Posted by MeSayDayo

It's not so much that people are upset with us being overtly pass happy. It is WHEN we are choosing to be pass happy, and putting the ball in a mistake prone Wentz when we should be pounding away with JT.

On his current usage (which we all feel is underutilized), Taylor is on pace for 250 + carries, 1300 + rushing, 12 + TDs rushing, approx. 45 catches (55 targets) for 500 + yards and maybe 3 more receiving TDs.

In my humble opinion, a back that nears 2000 all purpose yards is being utilized just fine. In fact, if he reaches those numbers while avoiding injury (knock on wood), then we have done even better with him.

Pass and Run split is fine. But we need to start running Taylor when we should be (and when the other team thinks we will) because its working regardless and it sets up the pass for Carson to have much clearer throwing lanes.

Different people are arguing different things. I’ve specifically been pointing out Taylor’s usage because a handful of guys seem to think Taylor is never used or want him used like Henry. He’s being used on the slightly conservative side of a top back and the injury rate for guys being used a decent amount more is pretty damn high. Chopped in particular seems to think if Reich isn’t running Taylor 25+ times a game he’s just an idiot. I strongly disagree.

The situational questions I somewhat agree with although it appears I disagree with many of the anti-Reich sentiment in what should have been called. I think going for it on 3rd and 3 from the 38 leading 14-0 was the right call, but it should have been a run on 3rd down. And pending the outcome on 3rd, likely another short yardage run (if necessary). That’s the exact situation they’ve invested in the OL for in my opinion.

I think the TE screen called on the pick 6 was bad, but I’m fine and actually like not running Taylor there. A roll out of wentz with a safe pass, throw away, or run option for him is what I’d have preferred. Wentz is plenty mobile enough to do what Tannehill did several times to the Colts. That is underutilized by Reich.

And the final game sealing interception was not a bad play call. A play call that gives you 2 wide open options - including your star RB open in the middle of the field with no one within 10 yards of his is pretty damn decent in that situation. Wentz blew it by throwing into triple coverage. If your argument is you don’t trust Wentz, that is fine and I get it. I don’t think he’s a winner. But if you routinely can’t trust him to make the correct read in that situation then the team has significantly bigger issues than the number of carries it’s RB is getting.

So to be clear - I agree Reich erred in some play call. I just don’t agree with 3/4 of the BS being said.

[Oldcolt]

Taylor doesn't need to run 25-30 times a game but the team should be a run dominant team. We have the players to be physical and we spend the game having them pass block 51 times. The offensive line should get a chance to dominate people. They need to be punishing the defense. Get Mack or Hines involved. Let Jackson run the damn ball. Wentz can win as part of a team. He isn't good enough to put the team on his shoulders. Physically yes, mentally no. Running backs get hurt, not matter how much they run the ball or not. Limiting Taylor so he doesn't get hurt seems to be what we are doing. It is working if your design is to keep him healthy. Not so much if you want to use him to win ball games.

[ChoppedWood]

3-5- 2 games lost throwing the ball for no good reason in situations where we should have run the ball
6-2- Several games won by running the ball even when it seemed they should have abandoned the run.

One has the best record in the AFC

The other is likely going to miss the playoffs

Reich sucks

[apballin]

When you’re up 14-0 I don’t care if it’s Taylor, Hines, Mack, or whoever run the goddam ball and can we scrap the Goal line shovel to a TE?

Reich is starting to become predictably unpredictable at the goal line and it’s not necessary we have the best guard in the league- inside the 5 should be run left every time

[Racehorse]

Originally Posted by apballin

When you’re up 14-0 I don’t care if it’s Taylor, Hines, Mack, or whoever run the goddam ball and can we scrap the Goal line shovel to a TE?

Reich is starting to become predictably unpredictable at the goal line and it’s not necessary we have the best guard in the league- inside the 5 should be run left every time

Put two of those RBs in the game and go wishbone for all I care.

[rm1369]

Originally Posted by apballin

When you’re up 14-0 I don’t care if it’s Taylor, Hines, Mack, or whoever run the goddam ball and can we scrap the Goal line shovel to a TE?

Reich is starting to become predictably unpredictable at the goal line and it’s not necessary we have the best guard in the league- inside the 5 should be run left every time

Taylor has had 20 carries in goal to go situations:

4 negative runs for -11 yards
7 runs for no gain
7 positive runs for 17 yards, 3 TDs
2 penalties for -16 yards

Wentz and Hines also each have a rush resulting in 3 yards and a TD

There have been 26 passing attempts resulting in:

8 TDs
1 penalty for -10 yards
1 interception
1 sack for -9 yards
1 sack/fumble

The interception was after a Taylor run for 0 yards

The sack for -9 yards was on 4th down after 3 straight Taylor runs for 0 yards each.

The sack / fumble was after a Taylor run for -2 yards

The penalty was on first down before Taylor had a chance. They scored a TD that possession throwing

Reich started the season attempting to pound it at the goal line and the results weren’t encouraging. 9 of Taylor’s 20 attempts came in the first 2 games. The results?

0 yards gained
0 TDs
2 penalties for -16 yards

Nelson was also in the lineup for both of those games. 8 passing attempts netted 3TDs during that time as well as a sack and the interception.

The point? The Colts have had more goal line issues than can be solved by just hand it to Taylor. That’s the way Reich started the season and it failed. They actually scored a TD in every goal to go situation against Tenn so I’d say there has been significant improvement. Not to mention Nelson has been banged up, missed games, and hasn’t been himself for most of the season yet. Great thought but I don’t think it matches reality.

I agree on the TE shovel pass though.