2021 NFL Draft thread - Day 2 discussion - Rounds 2 and 3

[JAFF]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

You have a pretty hard time with it.

I dont pretend to be an NFL scout

[IndyNorm]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

In all fairness Ballard has done quite well in the past so I’ll reserve judgement but I do have serious concerns.

Actually for as good as Ballard has been at drafting overall, he's been really bad at drafting pass rushers. Basham was a wasted draft pick, Banogu looks to be the same, and Lewis has been average at best when he's not a healthy scratch. Turray looks to be ok if he can stay healthy and stop jumping offsides on 4th down. Hopefully this year's class will buck that trend, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

[JAFF]

Originally Posted by IndyNorm

Couldn't agree more. We lose our starting LT to retirement at conveniently the deepest LT draft class in history and fail to replace him. Fucking Turrible.

AND they spent draft capital to get a QB who was not a fossil. See that must be part of the equation. Ballard found his QB early, and now he is playing the hand he has left.

[rcubed]

Originally Posted by Oldcolt

If Ballard had really liked on of these tackles we would have had him. Dude moves up when he wants to. He plays the long game, using a second on a guy who wont get his explosion back until 2022 or 23. He did say way back that he likes linemen.

Eh. He didnt have capital to move up in second. He didnt think any were first rounder, ok. He bet one of those guys would be available at 54 and lost. Time to move on.


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[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by JAFF

I dont pretend to be an NFL scout

Nor do I. I enjoy watching film and evaluating players. Don't like it? Don't read it.

Originally Posted by rcubed

Eh. He didnt have capital to move up in second. He didnt think any were first rounder, ok. He bet one of those guys would be available at 54 and lost. Time to move on.


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Exactly, go sign Villanueva or Okung and attack the position as best you can next year.

[IndyNorm]

Originally Posted by JAFF

AND they spent draft capital to get a QB who was not a fossil. See that must be part of the equation. Ballard found his QB early, and now he is playing the hand he has left.

Trading our 3rd round pick had nothing to do with him passing on Darrisaw for a project DE. Also, the Browns gave up a 3rd but got Carolina's 4th in the deal to move up 7 spots. I'm sure we could have moved up 2 spots (or more to get Cosmi) despite us not having a 3rd this year.

[JAFF]

Originally Posted by IndyNorm

Trading our 3rd round pick had nothing to do with him passing on Darrisaw for a project DE. Also, the Browns gave up a 3rd but got Carolina's 4th in the deal to move up 7 spots. I'm sure we could have moved up 2 spots (or more to get Cosmi) despite us not having a 3rd this year.

Thats what you think, but not able to prove. Moving up takes leverage. They spent picks for a new QB which get expensive if he plays well.

Its always easier to spend someone elses money, not having your own cash in the pot

[IndyNorm]

Originally Posted by JAFF

Thats what you think, but not able to prove. Moving up takes leverage. They spent picks for a new QB which get expensive if he plays well.

Its always easier to spend someone elses money, not having your own cash in the pot

Even if we weren't able to move up (although again based on what the Browns did we should have been able to) we still could have picked Darrisaw and been done with the LT replacement, which is now a fucking mess.

[Dam8610]

Milton Williams in the top 75 picks. He could be a monster, especially learning from Fletcher Cox.

[Dam8610]

Fuck it, all Edge draft, go grab Elerson Smith in Round 4.