ColtFreaks.com - Indianapolis Colts Fan Forum   ColtFreaks.com Home Page

Go Back   ColtFreaks.com - Indianapolis Colts Fan Forum > Indianapolis Colts Fan Forum > Indianapolis Colts Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 02-06-2021, 09:15 AM
Ironshaft Ironshaft is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 400
Thanks: 1,302
Thanked 777 Times in 262 Posts
Default

Original question: Darnold or Wentz?

I would trade no more than a 2021 3rd round pick or 2022 2nd round pick for Darnold. While he could bomb here, his skill set is too good to not try and rebuild he career in a well run franchise in an offense with a strong O-Line and run game

Wentz? Not an option, IMO. Too expensive for the potential disaster he could be if he does not regain form.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 02-06-2021, 10:46 AM
Dam8610 Dam8610 is offline
Post whore
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 6,606
Thanks: 120
Thanked 2,256 Times in 1,269 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ironshaft View Post
Original question: Darnold or Wentz?

I would trade no more than a 2021 3rd round pick or 2022 2nd round pick for Darnold. While he could bomb here, his skill set is too good to not try and rebuild he career in a well run franchise in an offense with a strong O-Line and run game

Wentz? Not an option, IMO. Too expensive for the potential disaster he could be if he does not regain form.
Why is Wentz not an option, especially if he's cheap from a compensation to acquire perspective? If he costs a 3 or 4, as the most recent article on the Athletic suggests, the Colts would get him as a QB with a 4 year $98.4 million deal with $47.4 in guaranteed money, $25.4 of which comes off the books in the first year. To me, that makes Wentz a 1 year gamble. If he's good, you have your franchise QB for 3 years at well below market. If he's bad, June 1 designate him for an $11 million dead cap hit over 2 years and draft your franchise QB of the future. Either way you end up paying well below market for the QB position which allows for keeping the core of the team together much easier.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by omahacolt View Post
i was wrong.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-06-2021, 11:16 AM
albany ed albany ed is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Albany, NY
Posts: 2,050
Thanks: 329
Thanked 1,567 Times in 744 Posts
Default

Well, if you could get either of them without sacrificing a 1st round draft choice, I'd be happy. I'd rather it was Darnold, but if Wentz becomes the cheaper draft pick option, I'm OK with that.
__________________
Hey, it's your world. I'm just gonna play in it for a while.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-06-2021, 02:10 PM
njcoltfan njcoltfan is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Jersey Shore
Posts: 3,551
Thanks: 1,055
Thanked 925 Times in 540 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by albany ed View Post
Well, if you could get either of them without sacrificing a 1st round draft choice, I'd be happy. I'd rather it was Darnold, but if Wentz becomes the cheaper draft pick option, I'm OK with that.
Let me make this perfectly clear, I have no interest in getting Wentz, but if I had to make a deal I would want Phillys first round pick for us to absorb his ridiculous contract, and Wentz, I’ll give Philly our second or third pick this year.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-06-2021, 02:14 PM
albany ed albany ed is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Albany, NY
Posts: 2,050
Thanks: 329
Thanked 1,567 Times in 744 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by njcoltfan View Post
Let me make this perfectly clear, I have no interest in getting Wentz, but if I had to make a deal I would want Phillys first round pick for us to absorb his ridiculous contract, and Wentz, I’ll give Philly our second or third pick this year.
Well, let me make this perfectly clear. That deal ain't happening.
__________________
Hey, it's your world. I'm just gonna play in it for a while.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 02-06-2021, 07:30 PM
njcoltfan njcoltfan is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Jersey Shore
Posts: 3,551
Thanks: 1,055
Thanked 925 Times in 540 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by albany ed View Post
Well, let me make this perfectly clear. That deal ain't happening.
My point exactly !!!
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 02-06-2021, 02:14 PM
Dam8610 Dam8610 is offline
Post whore
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 6,606
Thanks: 120
Thanked 2,256 Times in 1,269 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by njcoltfan View Post
Let me make this perfectly clear, I have no interest in getting Wentz, but if I had to make a deal I would want Phillys first round pick for us to absorb his ridiculous contract, and Wentz, I’ll give Philly our second or third pick this year.
That's not going to happen. You're on the record, but as Ballard said, there's going to be a reason each of these guys is available. If the Colts don't want to trade up for a QB in the draft, they're going to have to take a guy with some perceived warts and believe in their development team to fix those warts. Who that guy is remains to be seen.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by omahacolt View Post
i was wrong.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 02-06-2021, 05:29 PM
AlwaysSunnyinIndy AlwaysSunnyinIndy is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 2,606
Thanks: 783
Thanked 3,345 Times in 1,455 Posts
Default

https://twitter.com/GregABedard/stat...51026285641733

Quote:
Eagles are asking for two 1s for Carson Wentz, which has led to some dial tones, including from one team previously perceived to be a favored landing spot.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 02-06-2021, 05:36 PM
rcubed's Avatar
rcubed rcubed is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 4,138
Thanks: 937
Thanked 1,481 Times in 815 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy View Post

Thats ridiculous


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 02-06-2021, 07:49 PM
Spike's Avatar
Spike Spike is offline
Post whore
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: USA
Posts: 8,329
Thanks: 9,709
Thanked 5,642 Times in 3,075 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy View Post
The hell with that. Two first round draft picks for Wentz? Fuck off Eagles.

There is only one qb on the trading block worth 2 firsts. Watson, and that's it.
__________________
Life is tough, but it's tougher when you're stupid.

Last edited by Spike; 02-06-2021 at 07:58 PM.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:23 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
ColtFreaks.com is in no way affiliated with the Indianapolis Colts, the NFL, or any of their subsidiaries.