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Old 01-16-2021, 12:23 PM
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Eason is an extreme long shot. He has the size and arm so fans like me can dream. COVID may have been good for his professional development as it slowed it way down and gave him what is in reality a complete red shirt year. By the end of next year the Colts should have a better handle on who he can be. At least he doesn't appear to be an idiot like Leaf or Schlichter.
I hope you are right about this, but do we have any evidence of that yet? Again, the pandemic could have put a damper on a lot of stupid behavior.
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I hope you are right about this, but do we have any evidence of that yet? Again, the pandemic could have put a damper on a lot of stupid behavior.
You believe we have seen a decrease in stupid behavior in the USA over the last year?
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You believe we have seen a decrease in stupid behavior in the USA over the last year?
5 years there has seen a steady increase in dumbassery and its not just one group. Its been a nation effort.
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I didn’t call Trey Lance slow. Mac Jones isn’t a good athlete. Eason isnt either but he probably had the strongest arm in last years draft.

A good player forces you to play him. We need a QB. It isn’t politics. It’s not draft position. He isn’t that good. They would love for him to be the guy. Wouldn’t have to spend a draft pick and he’s on a rookie contract.
Did I somehow misinterpret the below? Because it seems like you describe qualities that Reich prefers in QBs, including slow, then say Trey Lance fits the bill:

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One of the issues I see though is he doesn’t seem to fit the type of QB Reich likes. Shorter, slow, not a big arm. The ND state QB seems to fit Reich’s preferences.
Also, I watched enough Mac Jones to know he's more athletic than your typical 4.8+ 40 pocket passer. He is elusive in the pocket, and he's a threat to run the ball for significant yardage when the pocket breaks down. He's not as fast as Russell Wilson, but I'd be willing to bet he's not as slow as Drew Brees, either.

Regarding Eason, we'll have to agree to disagree, because all the 4th round or later QBs that I can remember coming into the NFL and spending any significant time as a starter got their opportunity because the starter in front of them got injured. I can't think of any since 2000 for whom that's not the case. That suggests a pattern to me.
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Did I somehow misinterpret the below? Because it seems like you describe qualities that Reich prefers in QBs, including slow, then say Trey Lance fits the bill:



Also, I watched enough Mac Jones to know he's more athletic than your typical 4.8+ 40 pocket passer. He is elusive in the pocket, and he's a threat to run the ball for significant yardage when the pocket breaks down. He's not as fast as Russell Wilson, but I'd be willing to bet he's not as slow as Drew Brees, either.

Regarding Eason, we'll have to agree to disagree, because all the 4th round or later QBs that I can remember coming into the NFL and spending any significant time as a starter got their opportunity because the starter in front of them got injured. I can't think of any since 2000 for whom that's not the case. That suggests a pattern to me.
What I was saying is Mac Jones is shorter, slow and doesn’t have a big arm. I do like Jones other intangibles, but he does not fit the profile I think Reich prefers. Trey Lance seems to possess the traits Reich covets; athletic, big arm, tall.

Eason literally has an opportunity right now to step up. The reason he isn’t the starter is bc he isn’t very good, not bc there is someone in front of him. If he was good they would consider it. Teams were not impressed with his football knowledge at the combine after interviews. Ballard just said he has a long way to go. At best he is a long term project.
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You believe we have seen a decrease in stupid behavior in the USA over the last year?
You, sir, have made a valid point.
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Rivers was a stupid mistake, we should have started Eason and should start Eason in 2021.

Instead of knowing what we have at QB in Eason, we have another first round playoff loss and no clue what to do at QB.
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Rivers was a stupid mistake, we should have started Eason and should start Eason in 2021.

Instead of knowing what we have at QB in Eason, we have another first round playoff loss and no clue what to do at QB.
That wouldn't have worked. He didn't even get a full offseason because of COVID, and he very clearly wasn't NFL ready. It would've wasted the rest of the talent on the roster.
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That wouldn't have worked. He didn't even get a full offseason because of COVID, and he very clearly wasn't NFL ready. It would've wasted the rest of the talent on the roster.
Wouldn't have worked for what? Not winning our division, barely making the playoffs, one and done? Ok, maybe.

Brissett was on the roster also. he started 15 games last year and threw 6 picks, compared to Rivers' 11.
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Wouldn't have worked for what? Not winning our division, barely making the playoffs, one and done? Ok, maybe.

Brissett was on the roster also. he started 15 games last year and threw 6 picks, compared to Rivers' 11.
If they'd started Eason, it would've likely completely ruined his development, and the Colts would have a Top 5 pick. You can argue that that would've been better, and in the long term it may have, but I'd prefer to keep the front office that the NFL is trying to pick apart together, which likely would not have happened in that scenario, and this team was one bounce of the football (on Allen's late game fumble) from beating a team that will be in the AFC Championship this week. I'd rather watch the team do that than get a Top 5 pick.
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