2020 Draft Day 2 Discussion Thread

[Chromeburn]

Not surprised teams want to trade up and we want to trade down. Question is, are we doing for picks this year or next year? If it is for next year, I bet they target a QB next year.

Some stats on WR's:

Percentage of contested catches last year:

Denzel Mims - 30.3%
Tee Higgins - 18.6%


Percentage of catches from screens:

Devin Duvernay - 40%
Denzel Mims - 1.5%

Best bet
Denzel Mims -235
Higgins' stock has plummeted - arguably more than that of anyone else at his position. He didn't light it up at his pro day and demonstrated a limited route tree during his career at Clemson, sending his average projected draft position from 19.5 to the fringes of the first round. I boarded the Mims train early and am hoping the momentum hasn't slowed down, though the price of this matchup prop is getting a little out of my comfort zone. I'm simply reading the tea leaves here and hoping Higgins' fall is real. If it is, Mims should hear his name called well before his counterpart.

Michael Pittman Jr., USC
Pittman is my bet for this year’s most overthought prospect. You can chase high-end athletic tools all you want, but give me guys like Pittman who know the receiver position like the back of their hand. He can not only separate on the underneath and intermediate route trees, but Pittman is terrific at using his size to stack cornerbacks down the football field. In terms of completeness at the receiver position, Pittman is right up there with anyone in the draft class. What really separates him are his hands. He’s dropped only five passes on 176 catchable targets in his career.

John Hightower, Boise State
Hightower is yet another wideout with some speed to burn as he clocked in with a 4.43 at the Combine in Indianapolis. That showed up repeatedly on tape as he averaged 18.5 yards per catch this past season. The Boise State wideout is exceptionally fluid and he isn’t simply winning by striding straight past slower defensive backs on go balls. He sells post-corners and other downfield double moves exceptionally well. We’d love to see him continue to add muscle to his frame, though, as he still only checked in at the Combine weighing 189 pounds — and his ability to fight through contact was inhibited because of it.

Devin Duvernay, Texas
Duvernay is on the opposite end of the YAC spectrum from Jennings. He’s a former track athlete who blazed a 4.39 in the 40-yard dash at the Combine. Jet-sweeps and screens are his bread and butter as Duvernay had the second most receptions on screens of any player in the country (42). He converted those into 17 first downs or scores and broke 14 tackles on them — both figures that led the country. With his combination of speed, power and elusiveness, he’ll quickly find a role in an NFL offense.

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

Question is, are we doing for picks this year or next year? If it is for next year, I bet they target a QB next year.

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1253735544963633154

Some buzz on Round 2:
— Among the players the #Bengals like at No. 33 are Ross Blacklock & Denzel Mims.

— Colts (34) & Dolphins (39) open to moving out.

— Saints (CB? LB?), Jets (CB?), Jaguars (OT?), Falcons among the teams who have made calls to move up.

New Orleans would need to include next year's picks for sure because they have already traded away this year's 2nd round draft pick. The 2nd and 3rd round draft picks of those four teams are below:

Atlanta Falcons - 2-47, 3-78
Jacksonville - 2-42, 3-73
New York Jets - 2-48, 3-68, 3-79
New Orleans Saints - 3-88

[Hoopsdoc]

Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1253735544963633154




New Orleans would need to include next year's picks for sure because they have already traded away this year's 2nd round draft pick. The 2nd and 3rd round draft picks of those four teams are below:

Atlanta Falcons - 2-47, 3-78
Jacksonville - 2-42, 3-73
New York Jets - 2-48, 3-68, 3-79
New Orleans Saints - 3-88

Trade with the Jets or Atlanta, if possible, especially if it involves picks next year. Those teams figure to be bad again.

[Chaka]

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

Not surprised teams want to trade up and we want to trade down. Question is, are we doing for picks this year or next year?

Take next year's picks. You get more value out of those, and if there ends up being no season this year, then the intrinsic value of a pick this year and next year should be about the same.

[IndyNorm]

2nd round mock draft FWIW. This guy has us taking Higgins at 34 and Eason at 44.

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/spo...ks/3020019001/

[rcubed]

Originally Posted by IndyNorm

2nd round mock draft FWIW. This guy has us taking Higgins at 34 and Eason at 44.

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/spo...ks/3020019001/

Here are a few more:

The Athletic’s Dane Brugler: Pick No. 34: WR-Michael Pittman (USC), Pick No. 44: S-Antoine Winfield (Minnesota), No. 75 QB-Jake Fromm (Georgia)

CBS Sports’ Ryan Wilson: Pick No. 34: S-Grant Delpit (LSU), No. 44: WR-Denzel Mims (Baylor), Pick No. 75: DE-Terrell Lewis (Alabama)

Sports Illustrated’s Kevin Hanson: Pick No. 34: WR-Tee Higgins (Clemson), Pick No. 44: QB-Jacob Eason (Washington), Pick No. 75: TE-Adam Trautman (Dayton)

USA Today’s Mark Schofield: Pick No. 34: WR-Denzel Mims (Baylor), Pick No. 44: CB-Jaylon Johnson (Utah), Pick No. 75: TE-Harrison Bryant (Florida Atlantic)

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

Originally Posted by rcubed

CBS Sports’ Ryan Wilson: Pick No. 34: S-Grant Delpit (LSU), No. 44: WR-Denzel Mims (Baylor), Pick No. 75: DE-Terrell Lewis (Alabama)

I would be happy with the one from Ryan Wilson.

[TêteDeFer]

I'd like 3 of those tonight, in order of preference :

WR : Pittman, Mims, Claypool
OT : Peart, Wanogho
DT : Gallimore, Blacklock
G : Hunt, Simpson
S : Winfield, Dugger, Davis
DE : Anae, Greenard

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

Al Breer wrote that the Colts and Bucs both had some interest in Eason:

https://www.si.com/nfl/2020/04/24/nf...mpression=true

Three quarterbacks are in play to go tonight, I’d think: Washington’s Jacob Eason, Oklahoma’s Jalen Hurts and Georgia’s Jake Fromm. My guess is Eason would be the first to come off the board, and I’ve heard him connected to the Buccaneers and the Colts over the last couple months. Both would afford him a redshirt year in 2020. The comp I’ve heard on Eason is Drew Bledsoe, which is perfect because I had one veteran assistant coach refer to him as a “1995 prototype” a few weeks back.

[rm1369]

Originally Posted by TêteDeFer

I'd like 3 of those tonight, in order of preference :

WR : Pittman, Mims, Claypool
OT : Peart, Wanogho
DT : Gallimore, Blacklock
G : Hunt, Simpson
S : Winfield, Dugger, Davis
DE : Anae, Greenard

I’d love to end up with two out of this group in the 2nd:

OT: Cleveland, Jones
DT: Blacklock, Gallimore
WR: Mims, Pittman, Claypool
DE: Gross-Matos

With the depth at WR in the draft and previous investments at DE I’d lean towards DT or OT now and double up at WR later. I fully expect a trade down from one of the two picks though.