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Old 10-02-2019, 06:20 PM
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This one bothers me. I've never been a big proponent of moving a guy out of his natural position to cover for injury while moving...especially a rookie into his position. Those 2 have just not played well together.

I hope to god that Leonard hasn't become Bob Sanders, in the fact the defense completely falls apart when he's not in there.
I’m this close to concluding that Walker isn’t good enough and never will be. While Okereke isn’t good enough right now, there’s more potential there.

If it were me, I would start Okereke next to Leonard when he comes back. Take some growing pains now and hope Okereke develops throughout the year.
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Old 10-02-2019, 09:46 PM
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I’m this close to concluding that Walker isn’t good enough and never will be. While Okereke isn’t good enough right now, there’s more potential there.

If it were me, I would start Okereke next to Leonard when he comes back. Take some growing pains now and hope Okereke develops throughout the year.
1000% agree. Walker is constantly constantly constantly out of position. Yep, I have been touting it for a bit- Speed, DL, Okereke and THEN Walker. Speed and DL together would be blazingly fast sideline to sideline and spectacularly long.
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Old 10-03-2019, 09:01 AM
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It was concerning when they fired DeGuglielmo after the offensive line had played its best in years. They got rid of a guy who apparently wasn't nice and got a nice guy to coach our line. So far this has been hands down the worst decision by Reich so far as this line has regressed. DeGuglielmo's personality seemed to mesh with how the line played last year when it looked like the offensive line might be where this team got its identity. Not so much now.
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Old 10-03-2019, 09:20 AM
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It was concerning when they fired DeGuglielmo after the offensive line had played its best in years. They got rid of a guy who apparently wasn't nice and got a nice guy to coach our line. So far this has been hands down the worst decision by Reich so far as this line has regressed. DeGuglielmo's personality seemed to mesh with how the line played last year when it looked like the offensive line might be where this team got its identity. Not so much now.
I'm not sure about this, through three games Mack had the 3rd best yardage total. I get a similar vibe as you, that the OL isnt playing as well as it did last year, but at the same time I think also that were Looking at the Raiders game and drawing conclusions that are perhaps too general.

Last year it took several games for the OL to develop into the top-notch unit they ended the season as. This is the biggest gripe I have about coaching. The team should be prepared from week 1 to dominate, it should not take them 5 weeks to figure out.
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I'm not sure about this, through three games Mack had the 3rd best yardage total. I get a similar vibe as you, that the OL isnt playing as well as it did last year, but at the same time I think also that were Looking at the Raiders game and drawing conclusions that are perhaps too general.

Last year it took several games for the OL to develop into the top-notch unit they ended the season as. This is the biggest gripe I have about coaching. The team should be prepared from week 1 to dominate, it should not take them 5 weeks to figure out.
That isn't coaching. The league set teams up to fail with so few offseason and training camp days in pads compared to years past.
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That isn't coaching. The league set teams up to fail with so few offseason and training camp days in pads compared to years past.
That was negotiated in the deal with the players.
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That isn't coaching. The league set teams up to fail with so few offseason and training camp days in pads compared to years past.
Hm... That doesnt make sense to me. Why would such affect the OL more than it would an opposing defense? One would presume that the defense spent the same amount of time (or lack therof) in pads prior to the season?
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Hm... That doesnt make sense to me. Why would such affect the OL more than it would an opposing defense? One would presume that the defense spent the same amount of time (or lack therof) in pads prior to the season?
Because an offensive line needs to behave like a single organism with supreme coordination and the ability to adapt quickly and cohesively to whatever the defense does. It takes time for 5 guys to develop that kind of cohesiveness, so you see an impact when you limit the number of days in pads to expose them to the array of stunts and blitzes they'll see in live action.

I generally hate military analogies with football, but think of it as giving one group of marines half the combat training as the other half. Would you expect them to be equally prepared at the start of live action?
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It was concerning when they fired DeGuglielmo after the offensive line had played its best in years. They got rid of a guy who apparently wasn't nice and got a nice guy to coach our line. So far this has been hands down the worst decision by Reich so far as this line has regressed. DeGuglielmo's personality seemed to mesh with how the line played last year when it looked like the offensive line might be where this team got its identity. Not so much now.
The OL was never this juggernaut that some made it out to be in late 2018. They got manhandled against the Jags and Chiefs, and were only slightly better than the Titans DL. I would say the line has been on par with how it performed last year. Perhaps Glowinski has regressed a bit, but that's all I see.
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The OL was never this juggernaut that some made it out to be in late 2018. They got manhandled against the Jags and Chiefs, and were only slightly better than the Titans DL. I would say the line has been on par with how it performed last year. Perhaps Glowinski has regressed a bit, but that's all I see.
That was reaction of our fanbase due to having such shit OLines for so long.
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