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Isn't part of "having a conversation" answering fair questions, which you still haven't done?

As for your question, Lawrence would obviously play on run downs over Lewis; however, unlike what you are advocating, Lewis was not a 1st round pick. The Colts absolutely need 1 or 2 big bodies to play some A gap. Do they need to invest their most valuable offseason asset in order to meet that need? No.
Everyone knows the answer to the question. He’s a run stopper first, just not a complete liability

It’s the 26 pick, not the Crown Jewels. And Lewis was picked a round later. Not that big a difference. Just being a 1st rounder doesn’t make it the end all. Depends on the draft which changes every year. Like those point systems they trot out for picks. Those aren’t accurate because the draft isn’t the same every year. A guy we’re picking will likely be rated a second round pick at 26. I doubt they have over 20 guys rated for the first round this draft. Colts should get the best player they can, hopefully it’s a defender. But Lawrence is a big DT and more athletic than any other NT that has come out in awhile. Guys like that don’t usually last too long even if they are devalued some now. You have a better chance of finding a good 3-tech with later picks than a player of Lawrence’s ability. He isn’t at the top of my list, but there are worse picks for me, like a receiver.

And we have three teams in the division trying to establish running games with big backs.
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Everyone knows the answer to the question. He’s a run stopper first, just not a complete liability

It’s the 26 pick, not the Crown Jewels. And Lewis was picked a round later. Not that big a difference. Just being a 1st rounder doesn’t make it the end all. Depends on the draft which changes every year. Like those point systems they trot out for picks. Those aren’t accurate because the draft isn’t the same every year. A guy we’re picking will likely be rated a second round pick at 26. I doubt they have over 20 guys rated for the first round this draft. Colts should get the best player they can, hopefully it’s a defender. But Lawrence is a big DT and more athletic than any other NT that has come out in awhile. Guys like that don’t usually last too long even if they are devalued some now. You have a better chance of finding a good 3-tech with later picks than a player of Lawrence’s ability. He isn’t at the top of my list, but there are worse picks for me, like a receiver.

And we have three teams in the division trying to establish running games with big backs.
Fair enough. I think you can get Lawrence's value for a much cheaper price and I don't think this scheme values Lawrence's skill-set enough for them to have a high enough grade on him to take him at 26. I could be wrong on one or both counts.

I also don't think that stopping the run was a problem last year. The run defense was pretty solid. I'd much rather get upgrades at EDGE, 3T, SS, and yes, even WR.
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Fair enough. I think you can get Lawrence's value for a much cheaper price and I don't think this scheme values Lawrence's skill-set enough for them to have a high enough grade on him to take him at 26. I could be wrong on one or both counts.

I also don't think that stopping the run was a problem last year. The run defense was pretty solid. I'd much rather get upgrades at EDGE, 3T, SS, and yes, even WR.
Maybe. You can certainly get any position later with a little less production in theory. Other NT's thought won't have his athletic ability. I honestly wouldn't mind if they double dip at DT. Lawrence might not be in on pass downs, but he would occupy 2 blockers all the other time making our 3-techs job easier. Tillery, Dra'Mont Jones, Simmons, Autry and Hunt would all have an easier job with Lawrence next to them most of the time. Also it would make our goalline a lot more stout. Anyway, I'm not opposed to him, barring a better defender doesn't fall.
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Dr Z and his legendary mock from SI

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Mel and Todd had their mock today on ESPN.

They picked DK Metcalf for us.

Jeffrey Simmons was picked by the Eagles right before.
Clelin Ferrel went a few picks after us, so did Greedy Williams and Dexter Lawrence.
Byron Murphy went around 20.
The other DTs were long gone.

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Mel and Todd had their mock today on ESPN.

They picked DK Metcalf for us.

Jeffrey Simmons was picked by the Eagles right before. Clelin Ferrel went a few picks after us, so did Greedy Williams and Dexter Lawrence. Byron Murphy went around 20. The other DTs were long gone.
Ferrel would have been the better pick. But alas, those fucktards don't know shit.
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Ferrel would have been the better pick. But alas, those fucktards don't know shit.
I have to think Ferrel would be at the top of that list.
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Mel and Todd had their mock today on ESPN.

They picked DK Metcalf for us.

Jeffrey Simmons was picked by the Eagles right before. Clelin Ferrel went a few picks after us, so did Greedy Williams and Dexter Lawrence. Byron Murphy went around 20. The other DTs were long gone.
They never get our pick right so good... Metcalf would be a waste of a pick.
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CBS sports has us picking.....


Round Overall Player Notes
1 26 DT Christian Wilkins, Clemson
2 34 SS Johnathan Abram, Mississippi State from NYJ
2 59 WR J.J. Arcega-Whiteside, Stanford
3 89 CB David Long, Michigan
4 129 DE Ben Banogu, TCU
4 135 RB Rodney Anderson, Oklahoma
5 164 LB Jahlani Tavai, Hawaii
6 199 WR Keelan Doss, Cal Davis
7 240 CB Isaiah Wharton, Rutgers
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