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[Chromeburn]

Colts have been in Indy longer than they were in Baltimore now

[njcoltfan]

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

Colts have been in Indy longer than they were in Baltimore now

it would be nice if they started to win some Championships like they did in Baltimore !!

[JAFF]

Originally Posted by njcoltfan

it would be nice if they started to win some Championships like they did in Baltimore !!

They have. 2 AFC and one super bowl

[DrSpaceman]

Since this is a nostalgia thread I am wondering if the old time Colts fans from the Baltimore days might be able to answer this :

Why did the Colts part ways with Shula? He was 71-23-4 in his time with the team, they famously lost SB III and the 1964 NFL championship game, but the team was first or second in the division every year with him there except his first, he had no losing seasons. In 1967 and 1968 combined they were 24-2-2, an amazing record, though they lost the SB after 68 and seems they were kind of screwed over on a tiebreaker in 1967 with the Rams based on points scored. One season later after going a mediocre but respectable 8-5-1 he goes to Miami.

Was it a matter of him just failing in the big games and not winning titles? He was only 39 at the time he left them, only 33 when they hired him. Seems it was a big like Dungy/Gruden in Tampa, ironically, since the Colts were on the other end of that one with Dungy. The got rid of Shula and won the SB the next year, but after 1971 until they left Baltimore they had only 3 winnings seasons, in 1975-1977 under Marchibroda. And 7 of those season were not just "losing" seasons but bad seasons with 5 wins or less.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/clt/

[njcoltfan]

Originally Posted by DrSpaceman

Since this is a nostalgia thread I am wondering if the old time Colts fans from the Baltimore days might be able to answer this :

Why did the Colts part ways with Shula? He was 71-23-4 in his time with the team, they famously lost SB III and the 1964 NFL championship game, but the team was first or second in the division every year with him there except his first, he had no losing seasons. In 1967 and 1968 combined they were 24-2-2, an amazing record, though they lost the SB after 68 and seems they were kind of screwed over on a tiebreaker in 1967 with the Rams based on points scored. One season later after going a mediocre but respectable 8-5-1 he goes to Miami.

Was it a matter of him just failing in the big games and not winning titles? He was only 39 at the time he left them, only 33 when they hired him. Seems it was a big like Dungy/Gruden in Tampa, ironically, since the Colts were on the other end of that one with Dungy. The got rid of Shula and won the SB the next year, but after 1971 until they left Baltimore they had only 3 winnings seasons, in 1975-1977 under Marchibroda. And 7 of those season were not just "losing" seasons but bad seasons with 5 wins or less.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/clt/

If i'm not mistaken, he bolted on the Colts, and the Dolphins had to give the Colts their first round pick in the following draft. C&O does probably know more.

[Oldcolt]

Shula was the hot young coach. Joe Robbie wanted him in the worst way and if I'm correct gave him control and a ton of money. Rosenbloom didn't think Shula was worth it so he essentially traded him for a first round draft choice. the Colts ended up getting Don McCauley with the pick. He was an ok back.

[JAFF]

Originally Posted by Oldcolt

Shula was the hot young coach. Joe Robbie wanted him in the worst way and if I'm correct gave him control and a ton of money. Rosenbloom didn't think Shula was worth it so he essentially traded him for a first round draft choice. the Colts ended up getting Don McCauley with the pick. He was an ok back.

No, not really

[TheMugwump]

Originally Posted by Oldcolt

Shula was the hot young coach. Joe Robbie wanted him in the worst way and if I'm correct gave him control and a ton of money. Rosenbloom didn't think Shula was worth it so he essentially traded him for a first round draft choice. the Colts ended up getting Don McCauley with the pick. He was an ok back.

My favorite Colts RB ever. He was more than okay, he was an all-around solid RB and great locker room guy, and the prototype for the third-down RB that became so popular in the 80's and 90's. I think he even punted a few times. At least he did in college and had the ability to do it.

Listening to Colts games back in the day, Jones to Carr was exciting to hear, but Jones to McCauley on third down was money.

[Dewey 5]

Originally Posted by Oldcolt

Shula was the hot young coach. Joe Robbie wanted him in the worst way and if I'm correct gave him control and a ton of money. Rosenbloom didn't think Shula was worth it so he essentially traded him for a first round draft choice. the Colts ended up getting Don McCauley with the pick. He was an ok back.

Check me on this but I don't think it was a trade but the Colts got the Dolphins 1st round pick for tampering by Robbie.

[PowayColt]

Originally Posted by DrSpaceman

Since this is a nostalgia thread I am wondering if the old time Colts fans from the Baltimore days might be able to answer this : In 1967 and 1968 combined they were 24-2-2, an amazing record, though they lost the SB after 68 and seems they were kind of screwed over on a tiebreaker in 1967 with the Rams based on points scored. One season later after going a mediocre but respectable 8-5-1 he goes to Miami.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/clt/

In 1967 the Colts and Rams tied for first in the Coastal Division with an 11-1-2 record. Rams won the tie-breaker due to head-to-head games. Rams won one, the other was a tie. There was no wild card set up so despite being tied for the best record in the league the Colts didn't go to the playoffs. I was 11 years old. I cried.