Kract arrested.

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by FatDT

FFS Racehorse you had one job.

But that is a messed up situation. I have less of or no problem with a person paying a consenting adult for sex. But places like that trap women into sexual slavery by stealing their passports and threatening them if they don't agree to prostitution. It's not some secret. Kraft took part in it, perpetuated that system, and it's BS for him to only get solicitation for it. But rich people don't go to prison so I guess it's not surprising.

Yeah don't believe everything you read. I'm sure this happened to a few girls, but the vast majority do it willingly. They make more doing this than anything they could back home. They just passed a new sex trafficking law so the police are emphasizing that so everything can fall under it. Where this really happens is meetups and hidden places that an underground community knows about. They move it around, could be a warehouse or out in the woods. Not in the middle of a strip mall where a girl could walk across the street and flag a cop in two minutes.

[omahacolt]

This is absolutely hilarious

[FatDT]

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

Yeah don't believe everything you read. I'm sure this happened to a few girls, but the vast majority do it willingly. They make more doing this than anything they could back home. They just passed a new sex trafficking law so the police are emphasizing that so everything can fall under it. Where this really happens is meetups and hidden places that an underground community knows about. They move it around, could be a warehouse or out in the woods. Not in the middle of a strip mall where a girl could walk across the street and flag a cop in two minutes.

What are you basing any of this on? I'm going to continue to believe the vice cop with 14 years of experience that told me his first-hand experience, the documentaries I've watched, and the articles with citations I've read over what Chromeburn says on coltfreaks.

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by FatDT

What are you basing any of this on? I'm going to continue to believe the vice cop with 14 years of experience that told me his first-hand experience, the documentaries I've watched, and the articles with citations I've read over what Chromeburn says on coltfreaks.

My sister is a social worker and specifically works in human trafficking and sex trafficking in Los Angeles and now San Francisco. She's seen the shit that doesn't really make the news. Girls locked in windowless basements handcuffed to metal bunk beds forced to service men, a lot of them underage and can't speak English.

A lot of these girls in the spas come over and keep coming over again and again. They usually return home because their visa is up and they have to spend a certain amount of time out of the country. Then they come back over. They're mostly prostitutes and they can speak passing English. They have health workers come in and test them for STD's regularly. I'm sure there are some that got tricked, but these spas are open air-conditioned places. No one is locked up as far as I know. They're filled with pro's from overseas that make a fair amount of money.

[DrSpaceman]

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

My sister is a social worker and specifically works in human trafficking and sex trafficking in Los Angeles and now San Francisco. She's seen the shit that doesn't really make the news. Girls locked in windowless basements handcuffed to metal bunk beds forced to service men, a lot of them underage and can't speak English.

A lot of these girls in the spas come over and keep coming over again and again. They usually return home because their visa is up and they have to spend a certain amount of time out of the country. Then they come back over. They're mostly prostitutes and they can speak passing English. They have health workers come in and test them for STD's regularly. I'm sure there are some that got tricked, but these spas are open air-conditioned places. No one is locked up as far as I know. They're filled with pro's from overseas that make a fair amount of money.

Yes sure sounds like a glamorous and respectful way for them to earn a living, giving happy ending handy's in a massage spa to 70+ year old men. Every girl's dream job.

Kraft and that whole lying organization can go fuck themselves. Of course he denies it, even though they have him on video. That is what they do, time and again, lie and lie and lie.

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by DrSpaceman

Yes sure sounds like a glamorous and respectful way for them to earn a living, giving happy ending handy's in a massage spa to 70+ year old men. Every girl's dream job.

I don't know what to say to this. I'm not glamorizing anything. But I'm sure if you grew up poor in China you would rise above it all to be the beacon of condescending judgment you are now. Maybe you are just happy your family isn't starving to death and you can provide them with something to eat. So yeah letting a bunch of old white dudes armed with their blue pills and little pricks poke you all day. Maybe to some people that is better than dying.

Originally Posted by DrSpaceman

Kraft and that whole lying organization can go fuck themselves. Of course he denies it, even though they have him on video. That is what they do, time and again, lie and lie and lie.

That's a given.

[1965southpaw]

I'm hearing this investigation may be linked to the prior Jeffrey Epstein case. Next few days should be interesting.

[Colt Classic]

It reaches so far down the Presidential line of succession that Nancy Pelosi is now President of the United States.

[DrSpaceman]

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

I don't know what to say to this. I'm not glamorizing anything. But I'm sure if you grew up poor in China you would rise above it all to be the beacon of condescending judgment you are now. Maybe you are just happy your family isn't starving to death and you can provide them with something to eat. So yeah letting a bunch of old white dudes armed with their blue pills and little pricks poke you all day. Maybe to some people that is better than dying.



That's a given.

Just to be clear, as someone who travelled to china to adopt an orphan from there last year, has seen first hand the conditions they endure and plans to travel back to adopt another child next year, the condescension I exhibit is not towards the women involved. I understate their plight. The condescension is towards those who take advantage of these women, employ them in situations that are illegal in this country and place them in situations still below even the standard of living considered poor in our society, yet justify it by thinking that providing a minimal to modest level of improvement over their deplorable, barely livable conditions in China makes it all worthwhile and A-OK

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by DrSpaceman

Just to be clear, as someone who travelled to china to adopt an orphan from there last year, has seen first hand the conditions they endure and plans to travel back to adopt another child next year, the condescension I exhibit is not towards the women involved. I understate their plight. The condescension is towards those who take advantage of these women, employ them in situations that are illegal in this country and place them in situations still below even the standard of living considered poor in our society, yet justify it by thinking that providing a minimal to modest level of improvement over their deplorable, barely livable conditions in China makes it all worthwhile and A-OK

Then I apologize bc I misconstrued your post. One of my oldest friends married a Chinese woman from a small village over 10 years ago. They met when he was in peace corp. He likened it to almost a purchase when they tried to get permission from her family. A dowery on steroids was the phrase he used. But he described their situation in rural China as miserable. However I see too often Americans judging women like these for their choices when they don’t have an inkling of the differences and level of opportunity between our countries.

This is really a complicated situation and I didn’t really want to get into the details. These spas are split into nationalities also, Vietnamese, Korean, Thai, Chinese. The situations can differ according to the country they are from. The females in China are still devalued even though they have a shortage of women and are having to import them now. I’m likely not saying anything you don’t know. There is really a lot more to it, some fly in with a visa through LA or San Fran then fly again somewhere around the country to work. They do this repeatedly for years. Prostitutes that have entered the life due to a variety of reasons.

Then there is another type that are smuggled in through shipping containers and forced into servitude. These people do not enter legally and the people that smuggle them in don’t want them to see the light of day or be exposed at all. These people would not be hiding in a strip mall in the middle of white urban sprawl.