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Old 09-19-2024, 12:58 PM
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Default Let’s make no mistake…this season is about one thing…

Molding Anthony Richardson into a top tier, NFL quality Quarterback; a Quarterback who can make all the throws and who’s capable of routinely executing a signature 12 play, 80 yard drive.

If they accomplish that, Ballard can spend draft day concentrating on filling holes on D. He can look for the next Troy Polamalu or Sauce Gardner. He doesn’t have to deal with the niggling tickle, the siren song of casting around, trying to find a gem at QB amid the dreck.

If they accomplish that, Chris Ballard is probably a little more willing to delve into the veteran free agent market. He could be uncomfortable with the idea of building a roster through free agency, but he might be willing to spend on one or two pieces if he thinks they’re the kind of moves that push Colts over the top and into the promised land.

If they accomplish that, 2025 could be the start of the kind of run we saw, 20 years ago, under Peyton Manning.
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Trading baaaaaaaaaaaack...

Which isn't always bad...but STFU! It's only week 3!
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We will never see another run like we saw with Manning, he’s the goat and it’s not even close. The stretch of dominance Manning had will never be duplicated.

If we’re talking about this season and what their plans are, I have no clue but if having him throw it 30 times a game was it they should’ve let all the free agents walk and started from scratch
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We will never see another run like we saw with Manning, he’s the goat and it’s not even close. The stretch of dominance Manning had will never be duplicated.
Yeah, gotta pump the brakes expecting AR to reach that level. Good thing is, we got to experience that run. Bad thing is, it'll likely not happen again.

Only the Patriots have had more wins in a 5-year span. Only the Patriots and 49ers have had more wins in a 10-year span. Technically, the Colts had the record for wins in a given decade until the 2010's Patriots topped it.

We're hoping for Josh Allen caliber, which is a different level. Fans want AR to have Allen's year-three leap in year-one. Understandable, but need to be realistic.
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Trading baaaaaaaaaaaack ......

Which isn't always bad ...... but STFU !!! It's only week 3 !!!



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In addition to the Colts beating the Bears today, the Texans were crushed by the Minnesota Vikings by a score of 34-7 ....... so I agree with you, it's way too early to be making presumptions as to whether or not the Colts should be thinking of shrugging off the importance of the season and to strictly focus on the development of Anthony Richardson. In fact, part of a young quarterback's development IS presuming that the team can win and possibly go deep into the post-season. If that's added pressure on Richardson and the team, then I believe that it's all the better in the long-run.

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I said it in the game thread today, but since this thread is about AR's development, I think it's good to say here too. AR is showing three main issues:

1) Accuracy, typically being high on throws. There have been quite a few throws in 3 weeks that Richardson has missed by a lot, usually being high on the throw. Being high often indicates bad footwork, but I haven't seen bad footwork. Is it just that he needs to learn to dial back his arm?

2) Bad Reads. No other way to put this, examples include passing up a TD to Ogletree today to throw an INT into triple coverage and the INT last week on a predetermined throw to Pittman that killed a drive. I haven't watched this week yet, but there were also a lot of open receivers AR passed up against GB. This is the issue that reps and film will fix the easiest.

3) Hero Ball. I could be wrong on this, but it seems like AR is trying to maximize each play. This leads to plays like the one today that was nearly a strip sack turnover. It also causes things like not taking the underneath routes and holding the ball too long leading to sacks. If you watch every dropback against GB, there are at least 5 open crossers Richardson either never sees or doesn't go to because he's trying to make a bigger play. This is an issue that will take coaching and film to fix, but it is fixable.

These three issues, as stated above, are fixable. They are also the reasons that Carson Wentz went from MVP candidate to bust. The other piece of this that concerns me is that AR looked more developed in his fourth and fifth games last year than he has at any point this year. I understand development isn't linear, but regression is concerning, especially if the previously reached high point wasn't the level of play that is needed, either.
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I said it in the game thread today, but since this thread is about AR's development, I think it's good to say here too. AR is showing three main issues:

1) Accuracy, typically being high on throws. There have been quite a few throws in 3 weeks that Richardson has missed by a lot, usually being high on the throw. Being high often indicates bad footwork, but I haven't seen bad footwork. Is it just that he needs to learn to dial back his arm?

2) Bad Reads. No other way to put this, examples include passing up a TD to Ogletree today to throw an INT into triple coverage and the INT last week on a predetermined throw to Pittman that killed a drive. I haven't watched this week yet, but there were also a lot of open receivers AR passed up against GB. This is the issue that reps and film will fix the easiest.

3) Hero Ball. I could be wrong on this, but it seems like AR is trying to maximize each play. This leads to plays like the one today that was nearly a strip sack turnover. It also causes things like not taking the underneath routes and holding the ball too long leading to sacks. If you watch every dropback against GB, there are at least 5 open crossers Richardson either never sees or doesn't go to because he's trying to make a bigger play. This is an issue that will take coaching and film to fix, but it is fixable.

These three issues, as stated above, are fixable. They are also the reasons that Carson Wentz went from MVP candidate to bust. The other piece of this that concerns me is that AR looked more developed in his fourth and fifth games last year than he has at any point this year. I understand development isn't linear, but regression is concerning, especially if the previously reached high point wasn't the level of play that is needed, either.
Agree with everything said. But I'm sure as hell glad He's a Colt instead of Levis.
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I agree with everything that you said ...... ) but I'm sure as hell glad that he's a Colt instead of Will Levis.



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I said it in the game thread today, but since this thread is about AR's development, I think it's good to say here too. AR is showing three main issues:

1) Accuracy, typically being high on throws. There have been quite a few throws in 3 weeks that Richardson has missed by a lot, usually being high on the throw. Being high often indicates bad footwork, but I haven't seen bad footwork. Is it just that he needs to learn to dial back his arm?
I don't remember where I saw it but just before the game, someone showed video of AR from the first two weeks where instead of his hips being perpendicular to his target, his hips are often parallel to his target on many of his bad throws.

He has enought upper body strength to still muscle the ball to his target but it often has the "throwing across his body' effect and his accuracy is poor.

Fixable? Yes, but the video mash up clearly showed that his body was not cleanly aligned for the throw he was trying to make.
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I don't remember where I saw it but just before the game, someone showed video of AR from the first two weeks where instead of his hips being perpendicular to his target, his hips are often parallel to his target on many of his bad throws.

He has enought upper body strength to still muscle the ball to his target but it often has the "throwing across his body' effect and his accuracy is poor.

Fixable? Yes, but the video mash up clearly showed that his body was not cleanly aligned for the throw he was trying to make.
Went back and watched for that, you're absolutely right. Happens on the Downs airmail at the end of the half, as well as every high throw. The perfect throw to Granson, his back hip swung out. So this is quite clearly just a mechanical issue for an otherwise really accurate QB. They just need to coach him to plant his back foot in such a way that his hips are in the right position. I think scheming up some designed rollouts to the right will help with this as well, as he'll naturally have the correct footwork for those throws.
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