AR update after Steeler game

[Chromeburn]

Seems he suffered a hip pointer. Could have played if he had too but they kept him out as a precaution.

https://x.com/aroundthenfl/status/18...L8ardaxv32vrGQ

[HoosierinFL]

I was curious about this...I remember the commentators confused about him being ruled "out" if he was back on the sideline still in full gear.
And they had the sideline report ask about it and she had reported back after talking to Steichen that he replied with a short "he got hit, he's out"

I wasn't sure if that was just some coach-speak and not wanting to elaborate. Or was it frustration with AR? If the latter, I kinda felt that was a risky thing to do, given how the game almost slipped away. WIthout AR, the offense lost a few dimensions, like the RPO. Even though Flacco played fairly well, there was definitely some stalled drives.

[Colts And Orioles]

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

It seems that he suffered a hip-pointer. He could have played if he had to, but they kept him out as a precaution.


https://x.com/aroundthenfl/status/18...L8ardaxv32vrGQ

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Thanks for the info.

I'm glad that they held him back, and I have no problem with them keeping him off of the field for at least one additional game. The last thing that I want to happen is a repeat of what the Washington Redskins did with Robert Griffin III. Late in his rookie season, Griffin sustained aa Grade 1 LCL sprain. What happened in a playoff game against the Seahawks shortly after that was an absolute travesty. He WAS NOT cleared to play, but the Redskins trotted him out there anyway. He reinjured his knee late in the 1st quarter, AND THE REDSKINS KEPT HIM IN THE GAME !!! ) ) Griffin wound up tearing both his LCL and ACL while continuing to hobble around the field for the final 3 quarters of that game, which of course required surgery.

Griffin III was the Rookie of the Year in 2012, playing to the tune of 102.4 QB rating. In only 15 games that year he completed 65.6% of his passes, 20 TD's and 5 INT's, and rushed for 815 yards for a 6.7 YPC average ...... if the Redskins had not done the unthinkable in terms of recklessness with him, he may have wound up with a long, distinguished career, instead of the abbreviated, decent career that he had.

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[ChoppedWood]

Originally Posted by HoosierinFL

I was curious about this...I remember the commentators confused about him being ruled "out" if he was back on the sideline still in full gear.
And they had the sideline report ask about it and she had reported back after talking to Steichen that he replied with a short "he got hit, he's out"

I wasn't sure if that was just some coach-speak and not wanting to elaborate. Or was it frustration with AR? If the latter, I kinda felt that was a risky thing to do, given how the game almost slipped away. WIthout AR, the offense lost a few dimensions, like the RPO. Even though Flacco played fairly well, there was definitely some stalled drives.

I think there is some frustration in all of this. The question is what is the frustration? Is it AR not really getting out of harms way- so basically not doing what he has been coached to do- especially in a game where at the time there is no benefit to the extra couple yards opening up the hit opportunity? Or is the frustration with what was probably a "are you good to go back in" "yes" and then immediately coming back out? I could see Steichen being kind of ticked at that as a coach. He is counting on you to be straight and either say yes and go full tilt or explain you can't. But for it to go the way it did, I could see Steichen just saying fuck it, done dealing with you right now, we're going to go with Joe for the rest of it and in turn sending AR a message about how quickly the NFL can show you that Not For Long is applicable to absolutely everyone in the league.

[CletusPyle]

Originally Posted by ChoppedWood

I think there is some frustration in all of this. The question is what is the frustration? Is it AR not really getting out of harms way- so basically not doing what he has been coached to do- especially in a game where at the time there is no benefit to the extra couple yards opening up the hit opportunity? Or is the frustration with what was probably a "are you good to go back in" "yes" and then immediately coming back out? I could see Steichen being kind of ticked at that as a coach. He is counting on you to be straight and either say yes and go full tilt or explain you can't. But for it to go the way it did, I could see Steichen just saying fuck it, done dealing with you right now, we're going to go with Joe for the rest of it and in turn sending AR a message about how quickly the NFL can show you that Not For Long is applicable to absolutely everyone in the league.

Bingo...that is what I am thinking as well. When ask about AR's return Steichen comment to the field reporter was, he got hit so he's out! He may even be feeling like AR needs to man up a little, sometimes you have to play through some pain, the great ones did/do it all the time! I remember Peyton nearly getting his head torn off by the Redskins, and came back in after one play!

[apballin]

Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles

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Thanks for the info.

I'm glad that they held him back, and I have no problem with them keeping him off of the field for at least one additional game. The last thing that I want to happen is a repeat of what the Washington Redskins did with Robert Griffin III. Late in his rookie season, Griffin sustained aa Grade 1 LCL sprain. What happened in a playoff game against the Seahawks shortly after that was an absolute travesty. He WAS NOT cleared to play, but the Redskins trotted him out there anyway. He reinjured his knee late in the 1st quarter, AND THE REDSKINS KEPT HIM IN THE GAME !!! ) ) Griffin wound up tearing both his LCL and ACL while continuing to hobble around the field for the final 3 quarters of that game, which of course required surgery.

Griffin III was the Rookie of the Year in 2012, playing to the tune of 102.4 QB rating. In only 15 games that year he completed 65.6% of his passes, 20 TD's and 5 INT's, and rushed for 815 yards for a 6.7 YPC average ...... if the Redskins had not done the unthinkable in terms of recklessness with him, he may have wound up with a long, distinguished career, instead of the abbreviated, decent career that he had.

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I’m not because he clearly needs as many reps as possible. This narrative of he’s so raw and inexperienced is getting old real quick. He’s the leader of the team and with every other QB this has been unacceptable. Wentz even gutted it out with 2 sprained ankle’s

[ChoppedWood]

Originally Posted by CletusPyle

Bingo...that is what I am thinking as well. When ask about AR's return Steichen comment to the field reporter was, he got hit so he's out! He may even be feeling like AR needs to man up a little, sometimes you have to play through some pain, the great ones did/do it all the time! I remember Peyton nearly getting his head torn off by the Redskins, and came back in after one play!

Agreed. Hopefully he sat in front of a screen last night and watched Allen and Lamar just get blasted over and over, and come right fucking back at it. He was drafted #4 for his dual threat ability- he cannot be the franchise without the full deck being available every time out.

[ChoppedWood]

Extremely confusing injury status updates.

This morning on Bowen and Sweeny- Will something or other said oblique and abdominal strain. Uncertain of grade but if Level 2- would be 4-6 weeks.

Just now on Query- Holder just said the team injury updates indicated no structural issue and this is now just a pain management thing and hopeful he would be the starter Sunday.

Taylor- low level high ankle. Uncertain of status for Sunday, told Holder after the game it was not a big deal.

The WORST news of all of this - Tyquan Lewis to IR with elbow injury. Uncertain right now if that is full season IR or short term IR.

This team is getting destroyed with injuries.

[Colts And Orioles]

Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles

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Thanks for the info.

I'm glad that they held him back, and I have no problem with them keeping him off of the field for at least one additional game. The last thing that I want to happen is a repeat of what the Washington Redskins did with Robert Griffin III. Late in his rookie season, Griffin sustained aa Grade 1 LCL sprain. What happened in a playoff game against the Seahawks shortly after that was an absolute travesty. He WAS NOT cleared to play, but the Redskins trotted him out there anyway. He reinjured his knee late in the 1st quarter, AND THE REDSKINS KEPT HIM IN THE GAME !!! ) ) Griffin wound up tearing both his LCL and ACL while continuing to hobble around the field for the final 3 quarters of that game, which of course required surgery.

Griffin III was the Rookie of the Year in 2012, playing to the tune of 102.4 QB rating. In only 15 games that year he completed 65.6% of his passes, 20 TD's and 5 INT's, and rushed for 815 yards for a 6.7 YPC average ...... if the Redskins had not done the unthinkable in terms of recklessness with him, he may have wound up with a long, distinguished career, instead of the abbreviated, decent career that he had.

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Originally Posted by apballin

I’m not because he clearly needs as many reps as possible. This narrative of he’s so raw and inexperienced is getting old real quick. He’s the leader of the team and with every other QB this has been unacceptable. Wentz even gutted it out with 2 sprained ankle’s.

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I'm not worried about him being raw and inexperienced, and I didn't say or insinuate that at all. I would say that same thing about a 7-year veteran franchise quarterback as I would Richardson. I'm concerned about his long-term health. If he has a hip-pointer and he plays with it, it could develop into a degenerative hip injury that ends his career. What's old is the notion that players are necessarily soft if they don't play with injuries that could affect their long-term health. None of us know the extent of Richardson's hip injury, and if the Colts are making sure that it won't endanger his season or his career, they are doing the right thing.

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[ChaosTheory]

Goddamn, Lewis. This poor bastard can't buy a smooth ride. 7 seasons in and he's missed half the season 5 times.

DL is taking an absolute pummeling so far.