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Old 08-15-2020, 04:27 PM
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He has been violating the emoluments clause in the constitution since he took office. He is using the office of the president for personal gain. He uses Mar-A-Lago, they rent out the whole place and bill the taxpayers. That money goes to his corporation. He has tried to get other officials to use Trump properties. He pushed hydroxychloroquine as President when he was invested in a company making it. Those are violations of the emoluments clause.
Not to nitpick, but the question was how Trump has trampled our Constitutional rights. Those rights laid out in the Constitution and through Amendment to that Constitution.

You have pointed out something that you believe is happening (assuming you are not a prosecuting attorney in a case against the President) that would be illegal for the President to engage in.

That is not a trampling of any citizen right as stated in the Constitution or Amendments. That is illegal activity (if proven) by a Presidential administration.

Those are two very different things.

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He also tried to say that the President had total authority over the governors to open states back up when they shut down over covid. He said : “When somebody is the president of the United States, the authority is total and that’s the way it’s got to be. … It’s total. The governors know that.” He thought he could subvert state's rights.
Okay, he said that. Can you please point me to the link that shows a signed Executive Directive ordering a state Governor to open their economy, please? What? He did not sign an Executive Directive ordering a state to open?

Sorry, even Presidents have 1st amendment rights. Trump can say whatever he wants, even from the press room of the White House. It makes for bad optics and bad politics but it is not illegal nor does it actually have ANY effect until he signs an official order directive or bill making it into a law, it is just talk.

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He tried to delay the election and got rebuked even from his own party for wanting to do that.
Sorry, a twitter post is not an attempt to "delay" the election. Again, even Presidents have 1st amendment rights.

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I don't like Trump the man. I think he sucks.

However, honestly, the SIGNED policies, directives and laws that have come out of his White House have been much more pleasing to me than I ever thought a lifelong NY liberal would ever do.

But, be honest about his faults. He has not taken a single Constitutionally granted right away from a single U.S. citizen during his Presidency.

However, Biden and Harris have both said time and time again that they plan on limiting the right to own firearms which is directly counter to what the Constitution states is a citizen right that "shall not be infringed."

11 May 2019: Former Vice President Joe Biden admitted that the “Second Amendment exists” but stressed during his speech in New Hampshire on Tuesday that it does not say everyone is “entitled” to own a gun.

Sorry Maniac, but if you would point out not generalities of issues you don't like about the President but instead show an actual limiting of a Constitutional right, I would love to hear it.

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