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Originally Posted by rm1369
I don’t think it’s the worst roster in the league by any means. It’s certainly not devoid of talent. But saying the roster needs good QB play to squeak into the playoffs also isn’t exactly a flex or an indication it is a particularly strong roster either. It’s certainly not the Brad Johnson led Bucs, Dilfer led Ravens, or even Foles Eagles roster. It’s a mediocre roster put together by a GM who claimed he was building a complete roster that wasn’t dependent on a QB. And Ballard has misstepped multiple times trying to find a QB. Yes, I know - it’s hard. But if he’s mediocre at building the rest of the roster, bad at finding a QB, and even he seems to now acknowledge a culture issue, WTF is it that he brings?
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But that wasn't the claim and it changes the premise. My previous post argued against that claim...
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Originally Posted by ChaosTheory
Bit conservative on Manning, I think (as a homer). Prime Manning would have torched this version of the league. Old, broken Manning only got to play 3 seasons under the 2011 changes... 17 game averages: 5264yds, 46tds, 13int.
Mahomes/Allen sweep HOU, GB, MIN and probably DEN. Defense earned JAX and NYG, so keep them. That's 12-13 wins
Good QB would have at least split with HOU, scored 17 on GB, which is already a division championship. Good QB probably would've beaten MIN that night. Hell, probably DEN, too.
Mishew level QB would've had us at 9-8 again.
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I don't think it's unreasonable to believe the bolded scenario if we had "good" QB play. I would argue 3, maybe 4 wins, but it's at least 2 wins. And just like that, it's a division title. NFL margins.
Minshew, who I assume we don't consider a good QB, is the level of QB that squeaks us into the playoffs. Speaking of him... Colts and Raiders were 9-8 and 8-9 respectively last year. Minshew went 7-6 with us, and 2-7 with them. His surroundings were not the same.