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Originally Posted by sherck
"keeping the executive branch alive" Sort of like in the exact same vein as the previous President who rarely worked with Congress and tried to lone wolf everything with the use of his pen and phone?
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The Congress that explicitly stated their goal was to oppose any policy or legislation he put in action? Right. Keep telling yourself the President, not the opposition-controlled Congress, was the problem. Jesus...
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Originally Posted by sherck
The nations that were in the travel ban:
Libya, Sudan, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Somalia
The 10 largest Muslim nations by population:
Indonesia, India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nigeria, Egypt, Iran, Turkey, Algeria, Morocco
You do realize that there is only one nation that is common to those two lists: Iran.
However, all 7 of the nations on the travel ban have been designated as nations that support the use of designated terror organizations and methods since at least 2010....and were so labeled during the Obama Administration.
Muslim ban, indeed.
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I was saying: if you're just blindingly for "banning Muslims" (not saying you are, the general you), I can't help you because you're inherently exclusionist (/racist/xenophobic/etc.)
If you're going to use the OBAMA SAID THESE NATIONS argument, A) exactly, which is why rigorous screening was introduced for immigrants coming in from those nations, and the "extreme vetting" proposed by Trump are just words that don't mean anything, as this policy is already in place and B) we continue to ignore Saudi Arabia, which of course presented the US with an actual terrorist influx.
The whole terrorist/Muslim/7 countries/whatever conversation completely falls apart, to me, when you look at the terrorist acts committed in the US and acknowledge how many are committed by white, native US citizens. And they're often committed with automatic weapons, by people with varying degrees of mental illness.
So Trump looking to roll back gun laws preventing certain individuals from mental illness from purchasing firearms feels particularly egregious and more the problem than anything to do with any of those 7 nations.
(And that's not even a partisan thing. Obama didn't try nearly hard enough to fight the NRA lobby either, because like most politicians, he didn't want to take on the NRA lobby.)