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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles
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Pete Rose was banned forever in the first place. He got a lifetime ban in 1989, which he agreed to. The Ban was appealable after 2 years, but Rose never had a leg to stand on to be granted a reprieve of that ban, because he was undeniably guilty of everything that he was accused of. And he has done nothing but lie about what he did ever since. He vehemently denied betting on Reds games for years before admitting the truth.
A narcissistic egomaniac like Rose would never admit to something that he did not do, for any reason ...... quite the opposite is true about him, that he denied things that he did do for years before finally admitting that he was guilty of everything that he was accused of in the first place when faced with insurmountable evidence of his deeds.
Also, Rose's situation was the quintessential opposite of what happened with Buck Weaver and Shoeless Joe Jackson when they played for the White Sox in 1919 and 1920. Those players had no rights whatsoever ...... no right to free agency, no right to arbitration, no right to appeal a ruling by the commissioner, etc. Rose, on the other hand, had all of the benefits that those players never had ...... the strongest union in all of professional sports, free agency for the last 11 years of his career, arbitration for the last 15 years of his career, and lawyers and representatives that uneducated players from 100 years ago could only dream about.
Rose bet on games that he was playing in, and managing in, and as previously stated, had all of the luxuries that Shoeless Joe Jackson and Buck Weaver never had. Jackson did everything that he possibly could to not participate in the fixed 1919 World Series (including reporting the entire situation to the team owner prior to the start of the series, trying to give the team owner the money that was given to him that he didn't ask for in the first place, and telling his manager that he didn't want to play at all in the series before the manager coerced him into playing.) Buck Weaver specifically asked for a separate trial (and was denied) from the other accused players because he wanted nothing to do with the fix from the get-go, and never took a dime from the $80,000 that exchanged hands between the gamblers and the other 6 players who were involved in the fix.
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I think you can hate Rose and think the worse of him and still have compassion for Rodgers for all the reasons that myself and others have pointed out! As far Rose's ban goes, I don't remember if it was Faye Vincent or Bud Selig, but one of them said that their main problem with reinstating Rose was that he had never admitted to betting on baseball, and they clearly implied that if he was to do so it would certainly open the door to his possible reinstatement. Then when he did at least say what they wanted to hear, they basically just used it to beat him over the head with it and used it to justify the ban already in place!
I found their behavior dishonest and cruel...if you had no intention of seriously considering reinstatement, just move on instead of manipulating the guy into admitting to something just to make you feel powerful and justify your actions!
I think you may be a CletusPhobe!
