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Originally Posted by TheMugwump
You are out of your blooming mind.
Both these guys are more likely to bust than hit.
Not comping them, but it's like the 2018 draft. Baker, Darnold, Allen, Josh Rosen. Four of the top ten picks. Three lemons, one diamond. You want to be the guy who trades up for Stroud or Young, only to have Levis turn out to be Josh Allen, and not Ryan Leaf (not saying he is Allen-like, only that more top of the draft QB's bust than hit.)
I mean Jameis Winston and Marcus Mariota, Jarod Goff and Wentz, Mitch Trubisky, Mayfield and Darnold, Kyler Murray (maybe the best of this list, but still not really showing he's a franchise guy). 2020 was an exception with Joe Burrow, Tua, and Herbert all living up to/exceeding their pre-draft hype.
And to comp those two to Wilson (unless you mean this year's Wilson), and Aaron Freaking Rodgers, is insane.
And anyone who thinks it is a good idea to trade up to get one should be fired from their GM position immediately.
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Obviously those are ceiling comps. I don't think Young is guaranteed to come in and be Russell Wilson, nor do I think Stroud is guaranteed to come in and be Aaron Rodgers. I just think that, if they hit their ceilings, those will be the QBs whose play style resembles theirs the most.
Also, of course drafting a franchise QB is a gamble, always is, always will be, but it's a gamble you HAVE to take if you want to be successful in the NFL. You HAVE to draft one and HAVE to hit on him to be a successful franchise. That's just how it works. No way to avoid that in the modern NFL.
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Originally Posted by Lov2fish
Stop comparing Stroud to Rogers, they don't correlate. When the pocket collapses Rogers doesn't shit the bed. When pressure is in his face Rogers completes more than 40% of his passes. Stroud only completes 40% of his passes under pressure. Just a hint, but in the NFL you are under constant pressure and the pocket doesn't hold up indefinitely.
Stroud is not a plug and play franchise QB. Just stop it, its asinine.
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I haven't seen this concern you keep bringing up. In fact in the Georgia game he stood in against pressure and made a lot of good throws, and escaped pressure often. Further, the other 5 games I watched of him outside of watching the Georgia game live showed me his ability to escape pressure, roll left or right, keep his eyes downfield, and create plays on the run. That's what led me to the Rodgers comp, because he was the only other QB I could think of who did that with such consistency. So unless you have a game to establish this "folds under pressure" claim you have, I'll just agree to disagree with you on that point, as there is no evidence of it, and quite a bit of evidence of the opposite.