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kitekrazy 09-10-2017 05:41 PM

I don't get the Gruden admiration
 
http://www.wthr.com/article/kravitz-...n-indianapolis

Pagano is merely a bridge to the next guy, maybe Jon Gruden, maybe Dave Toub, one of whom I believe will the head coach here next season.



I have to ask why hasn't any NFL team shown interest and it's closer to decade he hasn't been coaching.

I don't think there's a matching wand in NFL coaching anymore. Most candidates get swept up by colleges. Based on this I wasn't surprised Pagano got a second chance.

Some of the older coaches that got fired show up just to eventually get fired again. We take faith in a familiar name as opposed to performance.
(Rex Ryan)

Also how many of BB's assistants have ever panned out as head coaches?

I think the magic wand is definitely a fairy tale.

nate505 09-10-2017 05:57 PM

The only admiration I have for him is that he wouldn't be Chuck Pagano.

Indiana V2 09-10-2017 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by nate505 (Post 25719)
The only admiration I have for him is that he wouldn't be Chuck Pagano.

And he doesn't tolerate isht like Pagano does.

Coltsalr 09-10-2017 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by nate505 (Post 25719)
The only admiration I have for him is that he wouldn't be Chuck Pagano.

That's selling his qualifications a bit short.

That said, I don't get how anyone could possibly be picky when we have Pagano currently.

YDFL Commish 09-10-2017 07:27 PM

I'm not the biggest Gruden fan. But, I'll say this.

No way he would want to join the Colts. He would want total personnel control
and I can't see he and Ballard co-existing in any way shape or form.

nate505 09-10-2017 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Coltsalr (Post 25872)
That's selling his qualifications a bit short.

That said, I don't get how anyone could possibly be picky when we have Pagano currently.

Yeah, he has a lot more going for him than just that. It's just that not being Pagano is enough justification for me to hire someone else.

But like YDFL said, I can't see Gruden and Ballard co-existing, and I still have faith in Ballard and want to see him around.

DrSpaceman 09-10-2017 07:39 PM

Gruden is not coming back to coaching. Assuming you mean John and not Jay Gruden

He would have done so by now if he wished and he has been away from the game for too long to be effective. You can't just jump back in after a decade away

Indiana V2 09-10-2017 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DrSpaceman (Post 25894)
Gruden is not coming back to coaching. Assuming you mean John and not Jay Gruden

He would have done so by now if he wished and he has been away from the game for too long to be effective. You can't just jump back in after a decade away

Dick Vermeil says hi.

DrSpaceman 09-10-2017 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Indiana V2 (Post 25896)
Dick Vermeil says hi.

Dick Vermeil had one great season in 8 after returning to the league and did not win a single playoff game in 7 of those 8 seasons, went to the playoffs 2 out of those 8 seasons

Indiana V2 09-10-2017 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DrSpaceman (Post 25899)
Dick Vermeil had one great season in 8 after returning to the league and did not win a single playoff game in 7 of those 8 seasons, went to the playoffs 2 out of those 8 seasons

And he won a Super Bowl.


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