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Racehorse 01-10-2021 07:25 PM

Draft 2021
 
After tonight, we will know which pick we get. Looks to be in the low 20s. Anyone have a clue where we will look to fill spots? I am thinking best OT in the first and defense the next two picks. However, if a QB who Ballard likes falls, it could all change.

YDFL Commish 01-10-2021 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 183592)
After tonight, we will know which pick we get. Looks to be in the low 20s. Anyone have a clue where we will look to fill spots? I am thinking best OT in the first and defense the next two picks. However, if a QB who Ballard likes falls, it could all change.

We desperately need pass rush. Not saying that's where we should go, but its the biggest need.

Puck 01-10-2021 08:02 PM

We need a shut down corner or prepare for another yr of zone D But LT is the number one need

smitty46953 01-10-2021 08:30 PM

I think we have to address the LT spot, regardless of what AC decides to do.

The top available in my opinion are:

1. Penei Sewell, Oregon (I figure he goes to Dolphins at #3)
2. Christian Darrisaw, Virginia Tech
3. Rashawn Slater, Northwestern
4. Sam Cosmi, Texas
5. Alex Leatherwood, Alabama
6. Liam Eichenberg, Notre Dame

I feel that the Dolphins, Cardinals, Redskins and Bears, along with the Colts could go with an OT. If my rankings are close that should leave Leatherwood or Eichenberg available at pick #21 ? Pure speculation... Personally I go with the Eichenberg and put him next to Nelson. :cool:

Dam8610 01-10-2021 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 183619)
I think we have to address the LT spot, regardless of what AC decides to do.

The top available in my opinion are:

1. Penei Sewell, Oregon (I figure he goes to Dolphins at #3)
2. Christian Darrisaw, Virginia Tech
3. Rashawn Slater, Northwestern
4. Sam Cosmi, Texas
5. Alex Leatherwood, Alabama
6. Liam Eichenberg, Notre Dame

I feel that the Dolphins, Cardinals, Redskins and Bears, along with the Colts could go with an OT. If my rankings are close that should leave Leatherwood or Eichenberg available at pick #21 ? Pure speculation... Personally I go with the Eichenberg and put him next to Nelson. :cool:

Darrisaw and Slater are the two I think the Colts should target as of now. Pass rush seems deep in this draft so unless Rousseau somehow falls to 21 I'd rather target DE in round 2.

smitty46953 01-10-2021 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 183625)
Darrisaw and Slater are the two I think the Colts should target as of now. Pass rush seems deep in this draft so unless Rousseau somehow falls to 21 I'd rather target DE in round 2.

I wouldn't mind either of them, just doubt they are available without trading up. :cool:

smitty46953 01-12-2021 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 183619)
. Personally I want Nelson at guard, where he belongs.

This Nelson to LT talk is silly. Why turn the Best Guard in the NFL into an adequate to good LT. That is a losing proposition.

Dam8610 01-13-2021 05:26 PM

Do we have a shot at any of the QBs?

Trevor Lawrence - No, he's a Jaguar
Justin Fields - Likely Top 5
Zach Wilson - Likely Top 5
Trey Lance - Likely Top 10
Mac Jones - Might be gettable, my personal favorite of gettable options
Kyle Trask - Should be gettable, don't like mobility

JAFF 01-13-2021 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 183922)
This Nelson to LT talk is silly. Why turn the Best Guard in the NFL into an adequate to good LT. That is a losing proposition.

A Castonzo disagrees with you.

Chromeburn 01-13-2021 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 183922)
This Nelson to LT talk is silly. Why turn the Best Guard in the NFL into an adequate to good LT. That is a losing proposition.

I see it as a possible money saving move also. They paid kelly, they need to pay Smith next. Then Nelson. I they put that much money into the guard position it will take it away from somewhere else. But if he is in the LT position, then they have that spot filled. This may mean they have a mediocre guard take his place though.

rcubed 01-13-2021 11:03 PM

Draft 2021
 
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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 184000)
A Castonzo disagrees with you.


Castanzo said he would do well, didnt say he would be all pro for years to come.

I agree with smitty. We run behind a fantastic center guard combo. We did fine with veldheer. Sign or draft a LT and keep line intact


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apballin 01-13-2021 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 183995)
Do we have a shot at any of the QBs?

Trevor Lawrence - No, he's a Jaguar
Justin Fields - Likely Top 5
Zach Wilson - Likely Top 5
Trey Lance - Likely Top 10
Mac Jones - Might be gettable, my personal favorite of gettable options
Kyle Trask - Should be gettable, don't like mobility

I’m down with Mac Jones

Coltsaction 01-13-2021 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 183922)
This Nelson to LT talk is silly. Why turn the Best Guard in the NFL into an adequate to good LT. That is a losing proposition.

Then again Nelson could turn out to be one of the best LT's in the game. They must see potential or they wouldn't have tried him there nor continue to talk about that as a possibility......

TheMugwump 01-15-2021 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 183619)
I think we have to address the LT spot, regardless of what AC decides to do.

The top available in my opinion are:

1. Penei Sewell, Oregon (I figure he goes to Dolphins at #3)
2. Christian Darrisaw, Virginia Tech
3. Rashawn Slater, Northwestern
4. Sam Cosmi, Texas
5. Alex Leatherwood, Alabama
6. Liam Eichenberg, Notre Dame

I feel that the Dolphins, Cardinals, Redskins and Bears, along with the Colts could go with an OT. If my rankings are close that should leave Leatherwood or Eichenberg available at pick #21 ? Pure speculation... Personally I go with the Eichenberg and put him next to Nelson. :cool:

If we could get Darrisaw or Cosmi and line them with Nelson, that side of the line will be set for another decade. I know a lot less about Leatherwood and Eichenberg, but at least he and Nelson could wax nostalgic about good old South Bend.

HoosierinFL 01-15-2021 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 183995)
Do we have a shot at any of the QBs?

Trevor Lawrence - No, he's a Jaguar
Justin Fields - Likely Top 5
Zach Wilson - Likely Top 5
Trey Lance - Likely Top 10
Mac Jones - Might be gettable, my personal favorite of gettable options
Kyle Trask - Should be gettable, don't like mobility

Depends. There's not a lot of QB need in the top 5 drafting teams.
Jags for sure will take one.
Will the Jets? Maybe, but I could imagine they don't.
The Dolphins won't.
The Falcons probably won't.
The Bengals won't.

NBC mock draft has us taking Trask, I haven't really studied up on him.

Dam8610 01-15-2021 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by HoosierinFL (Post 184157)
Depends. There's not a lot of QB need in the top 5 drafting teams.
Jags for sure will take one.
Will the Jets? Maybe, but I could imagine they don't.
The Dolphins won't.
The Falcons probably won't.
The Bengals won't.

NBC mock draft has us taking Trask, I haven't really studied up on him.

I don't like Trask's mobility. Of the QBs that I think the Colts may have a chance to draft, I like Mac Jones the most for his anticipation, mobility, and pocket presence.

Chromeburn 01-15-2021 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by HoosierinFL (Post 184157)
Depends. There's not a lot of QB need in the top 5 drafting teams.
Jags for sure will take one.
Will the Jets? Maybe, but I could imagine they don't.
The Dolphins won't.
The Falcons probably won't.
The Bengals won't.

NBC mock draft has us taking Trask, I haven't really studied up on him.

The only team in there I see for sure won’t is the Bengals. Dolphins could if the right QB falls to them.

Chromeburn 01-26-2021 07:16 PM

Kiper has Mac Jones going 15 to the patriots

Dam8610 01-27-2021 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 185345)
Kiper has Mac Jones going 15 to the patriots

Yep. I would hate to see Darth Hoodie get him.

Chromeburn 01-27-2021 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 185366)
Yep. I would hate to see Darth Hoodie get him.

He tested out as 6’2 at the senior bowl. Colleges always pad the height and weight of players.

HoosierinFL 01-27-2021 04:47 PM

I just saw Kiper mocked us taking Kwity Paye:
With Philip Rivers retired and Jacoby Brissett a free agent, we know the Colts will be in the quarterback market this offseason. If they wait until the draft to make their move, they might have to trade up to get their guy. I don’t see a fit here. Paye is a tough evaluation. He finished his four-year college career with 11.5 sacks and had only two last season. But we know that the draft is all about size/athleticism traits, even when the production doesn’t match. And that’s 6-4, 270-pound Paye, who is a gifted athlete. This is an upside pick, and the Colts have a hole at defensive end with Justin Houston hitting free agency.

Honestly that sounds terrible. A pass rushing project in the first round? wtf?
Sounds stupid to me.
But some writers think he's pretty good:
https://www.si.com/college/michigan/...-defensive-end

I know nothing about him, why doesn't his production match his measurables?

Chromeburn 01-27-2021 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by HoosierinFL (Post 185419)
I just saw Kiper mocked us taking Kwity Paye:
With Philip Rivers retired and Jacoby Brissett a free agent, we know the Colts will be in the quarterback market this offseason. If they wait until the draft to make their move, they might have to trade up to get their guy. I don’t see a fit here. Paye is a tough evaluation. He finished his four-year college career with 11.5 sacks and had only two last season. But we know that the draft is all about size/athleticism traits, even when the production doesn’t match. And that’s 6-4, 270-pound Paye, who is a gifted athlete. This is an upside pick, and the Colts have a hole at defensive end with Justin Houston hitting free agency.

Honestly that sounds terrible. A pass rushing project in the first round? wtf?
Sounds stupid to me.
But some writers think he's pretty good:
https://www.si.com/college/michigan/...-defensive-end

I know nothing about him, why doesn't his production match his measurables?

I don’t think Kiper knows what to do with our pick yet. He is waiting to see how we address QB.

Chromeburn 01-28-2021 01:18 PM

Mac Jones having a good senior week.

https://i.ibb.co/ZGmTV2G/05-EA40-A3-...8-F632-DF1.jpg

Chromeburn 01-28-2021 01:54 PM

Some more draft news

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/n...1-senior-bowl/

Dam8610 01-29-2021 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 185487)
Mac Jones having a good senior week.

https://i.ibb.co/ZGmTV2G/05-EA40-A3-...8-F632-DF1.jpg

If he's doing that well, he'll likely be gone by 21.

apballin 01-29-2021 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 185560)
If he's doing that well, he'll likely be gone by 21.

Maybe not though, how many teams are looking for a QB really

Dam8610 01-29-2021 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 185578)
Maybe not though, how many teams are looking for a QB really

01) JAX - QB (1)
02) NYJ - Likely QB (.75)
03) MIA - Unlikely QB (.25)
04) ATL - Possible QB (.5)
05) CIN - No QB (0)
06) PHI - Unlikely QB (.25)
07) DET - Likely QB (.75)
08) CAR - Possible QB (.5)
09) DEN - Likely QB (.75)
10) DAL - No QB (0)
11) NYG - No QB (0)
12) SF - Possible QB (.5)
13) LAC - No QB (0)
14) MIN - No QB (0)
15) NE - Likely QB (.75)

Just in the Top 15, assuming one of the Top 5 QBs are available at the pick, a very basic probability analysis shows a need for 6 QBs on average.

Puck 01-29-2021 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 185589)
01) JAX - QB (1)
02) NYJ - Likely QB (.75)
03) MIA - Unlikely QB (.25)
04) ATL - Possible QB (.5)
05) CIN - No QB (0)
06) PHI - Unlikely QB (.25)
07) DET - Likely QB (.75)
08) CAR - Possible QB (.5)
09) DEN - Likely QB (.75)
10) DAL - No QB (0)
11) NYG - No QB (0)
12) SF - Possible QB (.5)
13) LAC - No QB (0)
14) MIN - No QB (0)
15) NE - Likely QB (.75)

Just in the Top 15, assuming one of the Top 5 QBs are available at the pick, a very basic probability analysis shows a need for 6 QBs on average.


I doubt more than 4 QB's will be taken in the first round. It has only happened 2 times. In 83 there were 6 and in 99 there were 5. most any other yrs was 4.

I feel like C&O with this post . HAHA

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 01-29-2021 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 185590)
I doubt more than 4 QB's will be taken in the first round. It has only happened 2 times. In 83 there were 6 and in 99 there were 5. most any other yrs was 4.


The 2018 draft had 5 first round QB's - Mayfield, Darnold, Allen, Rosen and Jackson.

Puck 01-29-2021 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 185594)
The 2018 draft had 5 first round QB's - Mayfield, Darnold, Allen, Rosen and Jackson.

Missed that one.

Chromeburn 01-29-2021 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 185560)
If he's doing that well, he'll likely be gone by 21.

I originally said 15-55 middle of first to around middle of second and I’ll stick to that. He will rise, then the inevitable over analyzation. His lack of athletiscm will hurt him some.

He will need to go to the right system where they can protect him. Saints or pats could be players for him. Steelers will be looking for a guy also.

apballin 01-29-2021 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 185589)
01) JAX - QB (1)
02) NYJ - Likely QB (.75)
03) MIA - Unlikely QB (.25)
04) ATL - Possible QB (.5)
05) CIN - No QB (0)
06) PHI - Unlikely QB (.25)
07) DET - Likely QB (.75)
08) CAR - Possible QB (.5)
09) DEN - Likely QB (.75)
10) DAL - No QB (0)
11) NYG - No QB (0)
12) SF - Possible QB (.5)
13) LAC - No QB (0)
14) MIN - No QB (0)
15) NE - Likely QB (.75)

Just in the Top 15, assuming one of the Top 5 QBs are available at the pick, a very basic probability analysis shows a need for 6 QBs on average.

Ok but of those top 15, if Watson or Stafford ends up with one of those top 15 teams then what?

rcubed 01-29-2021 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 185611)
Ok but of those top 15, if Watson or Stafford ends up with one of those top 15 teams then what?

not much. HOU would just replace the team on that list as they will draft a QB. DET is already on that list so maybe one less team team in the hunt for new QB

JAFF 01-29-2021 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 185594)
The 2018 draft had 5 first round QB's - Mayfield, Darnold, Allen, Rosen and Jackson.

Is Rosen available?

Note sarcasim

Dam8610 01-29-2021 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 185599)
I originally said 15-55 middle of first to around middle of second and I’ll stick to that. He will rise, then the inevitable over analyzation. His lack of athletiscm will hurt him some.

He will need to go to the right system where they can protect him. Saints or pats could be players for him. Steelers will be looking for a guy also.

I would only not hate one of those three scenarios.

Chromeburn 01-29-2021 10:57 PM

Mac Jones voted best QB on the afc team by the senior bowl secondary

JAFF 01-30-2021 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 185421)
I don’t think Kiper knows what to do with our pick yet. He is waiting to see how we address QB.

Ask Bill Tobin’s mailman

Chromeburn 01-30-2021 01:30 PM

Senior bowl is on at 2:30 eastern today

Dam8610 01-30-2021 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 185672)
Senior bowl is on at 2:30 eastern today

Does anyone have the practices up on YouTube yet? I assume the game will be up sometime next week.

Mr. Session 02-02-2021 02:10 PM

Anyone seen this kid Meinerz?


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